If I were GM of the Jets

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Won't happen in '09.
     
  2. BadgerOnLSD

    BadgerOnLSD Banned

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    I don't think anyone doubts Asomugha's ability, but the only problem is we probably won't have the cap space to sign him.
     
  3. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    The days of the "every down" back are kind of behind us. If Washington can carry the ball 10-15 times a game we're good.
     
  4. Raiderjoe

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    Raiders have the franchise tag and will defintely use it. Like I stated in previous threads the drop off from their other Cb's Stanford routt 6'1 195 and Chris Johnson 6'1 200(Ufa they must resign) froM Asomugha on the outside, is not that much. IF Raiders move him it will be in a trade to NFC( say Saints) . Saints have alot of talent and are need for shutdown CB. Jets have as much chance as gettiong Asomugha as they do of hiring a skinny head coach. Whats the thing with Fat coaches(mangini and Rex ryan)
     
  5. Mr Electric

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    Dude, do you realize who plays quarterback for the Raiders, right? He's a sloppy, fat, stupid, lazy, waste of a draft pick. JaMarcus Russell will eat himself out of the league. Oh, and I'm waiting for you to tell me that he's already lost 50 pounds and that he runs a 4.19 40 like the rest of your Raider superstars.

    ...and last time I checked Tom Cable looked like the adult version of the fat kid from The Sandlot. Art Shell is a former lineman, so he's packing a few extra pounds. 2 out of the 3 years, Oakland's had a fat ass coach as well. There's one difference though, Oakland ALWAYS find a way to end up in the top ten every April.
     
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  6. SyracuseJet

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    "Theeee Greeaaatttt Bammmmbiiinooooo"
     
  7. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    an excellent post--I would echo Gang 51's recommendation of trading down in the draft and I would also add getting rid of Bryan Thomas and Brad Smith. Smith has done nothing in 3 years, and we need some STUDS at WR. Thomas can't get around the corner and rush the passer--Your OLB HAVE to be playmakers in the 3-4 and Thomas stinks, pure and simple. A terrible resigning.
     
  8. Raiderjoe

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    Again do your home work, Checkout Russell first and last eight games. Normal maturation of a young QB. Finished with a higher Qb rating than either Peytion or eli manning starting his first sixteen games. Everyone that has seen Russell from ravens defense to Gruden , have say this kid going to be something special, when they get Oline in front of him.

    Case In Point look how much better Russell looked than B Favre when he didn't have to worry about a pass rush(jets don't have one). Again Raiders only onelineman away from having something special on offense. That most likely will be pick number 7 in this draft.
     
  9. SyracuseJet

    SyracuseJet Well-Known Member

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    I smell denial.
     
  10. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Ah so much cynicism but oh so true. Even if after all that you posted PSLs are in neutral so Woody will have to make another big splash to get them moving again
     
  11. MBGreen

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    jesus h. christ...you haven't had a record close to .500 in years.....please, STFU!!!

    you are a failure to the human race.
     
  12. SyracuseJet

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    This should be fun. Stats For First Full Season

    Stat l P Manning l E Manning l Russell

    TDs 26 24 13
    Yards 3739 3762 2423
    Pass Att 575 557 368

    One of these things ain't like the other...One of these things doesn't belong
    Don't compare Russell to 2 Super Bowl MVPs, it's rediculous.
     
  13. ibleedgreen7476

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    Gotta love these ignorant, wish list posts, all these things are great if they could be done, but there's only so many players in the draft and so much cap room for free agency. But wtf right, if you know a way to pull all that off in one season maybe the Lions will hire you

    :pats_suck::finssuck::buffaloblows:
     
  14. Mr Electric

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    No Jeaux, do your damn homework. JaMarcus Russell has NOTHING on Peyton Manning or Eli Manning. They both have Super Bowl rings. Russell won't even get to the playoffs as a starting QB.

    Peyton Manning started all 16 games...as a rookie. Russell had a year to grasp the NFL game, and he's still garbage. That's a bullshit comparison. JR should have the higher QB rating, he sat the bench in 2007 and wasn't thrown into the fire like Peyton Manning.

    Also, Peyton Manning led the Colts to a 13-3 record, the AFC East title, and a playoff appearance his second year in the league. Eli Manning and the Giants went 11-5, won the NFC East, and went to the playoffs in his second year. Do you see what I see Jeauxseph, do you? Winning records, division titles, and playoff berths...in their second season?

    JaMarcus "matured" over the season? He threw 3 TDs to 6 INTs over the last 5 games of the season.

    How can you say a quarterback that threw for less than 100 yards...ONE HUNDRED YARDS...in three games, is a maturing QB? He's awful.
     
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  15. Long Time Jet Fan

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    So what would you do if you were GM Mr. Smartypants. And you might want to go back and actually read the original post before you respond.
     
  16. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Why would the Cardinals let Warner go?
     
  17. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on Thomas. However, i think cutting only clears around 500k of cap (could be wrong on that though). For that cap amount, might be worth keeping for depth.
    I disagree on Smith. He also only runs us about 500k, and is a great contributor on special teams. worth keeping around for that and depth at WR.
     
  18. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    There is no indication that the Chargers seem to think Sproles is an adequate replacement for Tomlinson.
    They like Sproles as a backup.
    If Tomlinson is not in their 2009 plans they will draft a RB early in the draft and that player will be the starting running back in San Diego.
     
  19. Raiderjoe

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    http://o.seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2008562135_apfbnraidersrussell.html

    Correct Me IF im wrong. Jamarcus Russell came out as a Junior. Peyton manning as a senior. You do know jamarcus Russell missed all of training camp and preseason games due to contract holdout( Those are very important for a Qb development) When he was signed first week of season. it was basically a lost season. Was too far behind to be thrown to the wolves. This was in all purposes Jamarcus Russell rookie year(Same age as Manning rookie year) Had a whole training camp and preseason . So I don't know what your smoking his numbers better than manning is something.


    Russell showing signs of improvement
    JaMarcus Russell dropped back to pass, read the defense and then found Chaz Schilens with a fade in the corner of the end zone against man coverage.

    By JOSH DUBOW

    AP Sports Writer

    ALAMEDA, Calif. —
    JaMarcus Russell dropped back to pass, read the defense and then found Chaz Schilens with a fade in the corner of the end zone against man coverage.

    That play in last week's victory over Houston was just what the Oakland Raiders expected from Russell when they drafted him No. 1 overall in 2007 and what has often been lacking for much of his first full season as a starter.

    But as Russell heads into the final game of his first full season as a starting NFL quarterback on Sunday at Tampa Bay, it is clear that he is making strides toward becoming the franchise player the Raiders have been waiting for since that draft day.

    "People expect for things to be quick, fast, in a hurry," Russell said. "They don't really know football, because there's a process, and now we're on one of those building stages of the process. I'm happy to be a part of that because once things start getting going, then everybody wants to be praising, pat you on your back."

    After making only one start last season following a lengthy contract dispute that cost him the entire preseason, Russell has been considered by his coaches to essentially be a rookie this season.

    It's been a trying year at times as Russell has had to deal with two head coaches, three offensive play-callers and a litany of losses and failures he rarely experienced before being a No. 1 overall draft pick.

    From his perceived lack of passion on the field, to missing a production meeting with a television crew to poor on-field decisions to even the flashy coats and jewelry he wears to postgame interviews, Russell has dealt with more than his share of criticism this season.

    Learning to deal with those setbacks has been as much a part of his maturation process as learning to decipher NFL defenses.

    "As far as the fans, the team, everybody. They always put it on the quarterback and the head coach no matter if it's good or bad," Russell said. "You've got to be ready for that criticism, take it and let it roll off your back. That's just the name of the game. if you can't deal with that, then this is not the game for you."

    Russell has completed 53 percent of his passes this season with 11 touchdowns and seven interceptions. While he struggled early in the season, Russell has been much better of late, especially after missing one game with a knee injury.

    He has completed just over 60 percent of his passes in his last six games, with a very respectable passer rating of 86.9 despite injuries that have ravaged Oakland's receiving corps.

    He might have been at his best in last week's 27-16 win against the Texans, when he finished 18-for-25 for 236 yards and two touchdowns.



    "He's just continuing to grow as a leader and he's doing a good job," running back Justin Fargas said. "I just let him know we need him to be our leader. I just tell him to lead us and to be confident in us, that we can make plays for him."

    While Russell falls short in comparisons to rookies like Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, who immediately turned their teams into winners, his numbers compare very favorably to the other quarterbacks selected first overall.

    In his first 15 NFL starts, Russell has completed 54.8 percent of his passes for 2499 yards, 12 touchdowns and eight interceptions.

    Those numbers are far from spectacular, but only two of the previous 15 quarterbacks taken No. 1 overall since the start of the common draft in 1967 - Michael Vick and Carson Palmer - have a higher passer in their first 15 starts than Russell's 77.0.

    He has fared better than future Super Bowl champions like Terry Bradshaw, Jim Plunkett, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning and Eli Manning.

    "You look at all the big time players they went through a lot to get where they are," Russell said. "It's a tough time we're going through right now, in the process of building something big. We just have to step up from that, keep going."

    One of the top attributes that attracted the Raiders to Russell was his strong arm that is capable of throwing the ball 80 yards down field. But he has struggled to hone his deep stroke this season, completing just seven of his 41 passes that have gone more than 20 yards down field, according to STATS LLC.

    That can be partially attributable to season-ending injuries to receivers Drew Carter, Javon Walker and Ashley Lelie.

    But the touchdown pass to Schilens last week came on one of those deep throws, giving the Raiders hope that Russell has turned the corner. Ending the season on a high note against Tampa Bay will just reinforce that notion.

    "You're going to see, that was a breakthrough game for that guy," interim coach Tom Cable said. "With the progress he's making, to back it up would be great for him in terms of his approach into the offseason. And then he can focus on his body and getting himself where he wants to be physically and all those things. It's very important."
     
  20. MBGreen

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    ^ so what you're saying is..the Raiders have a chance at winning....what?....6 games next season?

    Until the Raiders do anything of merit (starting with winning more than 5 games)...they'll continue to be the league's garbage can.
     

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