Good read! http://nyjetsuniverse.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/if-mike-t-gives-no-protection-he-gets-no-protection/
Faneca's last good year in the NFL was his last year with the Jets. He declined big time after that, it was a smart decision at the time. He was reaching the end of his career, and Woody had one more left in him. That why Tanny drafted Slauson and later Ducasse. The one big mistake he made, which is undeniable, was not addressing RT in the early off season. He's trying now, but I really don't understand how he didn't notice Hunter last year getting Sanchez destroyed. Maybe he tried early on but had no luck. I mean it was obvious last year. He did bring in Howard, though and tried Otah. At least that's a glimmer of hope.
Tannenbaum is a Parcells guy Tuna had guys like Fabini, Young start at RT and play well for the Jets I think that's part of the reason why he thinks he can get by at RT without super expensive players.
Jason Fabini was a decent RT early in his career and a pretty good LT late. He just aged out quickly when he went.
I was listening to Boomer and Carton interview T and you just want to throttle him. He sounds like he's actually convinced himself he's doing a good job. They grilled him pretty good about Tbow and he doesn't give in an inch. Its like he lives in a different reality where the rest of the sports world's rules and logic doesn't apply to his decisions. Of course he said as little as possible about RT and Hunter. Not even willing to say Hunter wouldn't be starting in the first game or if they were looking to acquire another RT. The whole situation is laughable. Its like when you buy a bad stock and watch it plummet in value and only decide to sell when it can't go any lower because its reached zero. That is what Hunter is worth right now. And only then do you decide you might need another RT when he has no trade value and everyone in the league knows how desperate you are. You are in fantastic negotiating position now!
Why would he trade for a player before teams cut down to their 53 man roster. Ofcoarse he is going to wait and see if a veteran gets cut who could help this team. It's just smart to see who is available then if your not happy with those cut you seek a trade. Tanny is doing the right thing right now
That's not true at all. Some teams right now have great depth in the RT position but won't be able to keep them all (the RTs) by the time they make their final cuts to the 53-man roster. All the Jets need to do is pick the best man cut by the 31 other teams. It seems the odds are in our favor. (Especially since Hunter is so bad and Howard is so unproven; someone cut will be adequate...and much better than who we currently have)
1. T-Bomb's indelible sin is... written on the wall. Paper-thin roster depth, coupled with horrible quality starters here and there. 2. Depth should have been addressed throughout the years, through the draft picks from 4th to 6th. (I still am an old-school guy; you can get a starter out of 3rd round pick - or that's my belief.) Tannenbaum 1. trades away these picks. 2. hasn't hit out-of-the-park homeruns with the trades as of late. 3. Now, couple that with the 'restructuring' he's done over the past few years. Jets are in cap hell. Is that how you spell "good job"? Good fucking riddance.
You mean at the end of preseason we get to pick from all the RTs that none of the other teams wanted. Then make him our starting RT despite not taking any snaps in the off season. Oh that Mr. T is a shrewd one! Why not pick up our starting WR this way too! It's such a great idea I wonder if any other GM has thought of it?
I'm gonna come out and say this article is a steaming turd that reads like a high school paper. It's a blog post, a bunch of opinions without much support for anything. And I can't decide which post in this thread is the worst, but there are several contenders. Do you guys think Tannenbaum scouts players? Someone in the organization told him Hunter was good enough to start. He bought it. What option was available that we didn't take, other than using a high draft pick on an RT? Jared Gaither and Demetrius Bell were the only two half decent OTs to see the market that I can think of. We tried the Otah deal, it didn't pan out. Ducasse was drafted with the possibility of RT in mind... it hasn't panned out. Bell got 6M/yr and Gaither was cut mid-season last year. I just don't see it as some kind of inexcusable fire-worthy gaffe. Would I like to have a better RT option waiting in the wings? Sure. Hunter stepped in admirably for Woody in 2010. He got the contract to replace him. He regressed in 2011. He seems to have regressed further. Hunter was bad last season, but not this bad / not so bad it killed the team by any means. What you saw against the Giants was not 2011 Wayne Hunter. He gave up 10.5 sacks in 2011 and 4/5 against the Giants. Calling us in cap hell is just silly. This isn't the New York Knicks. What terrible long term contract are we burdened with? This is the price of those "one in a generation players" the article alludes to. Most teams aren't paying 20M to 2 CBs and 10M to their center. But those players earn those checks. We have several high skilled expensive veterans eating up a big chuck of the cap. Besides them, Calvin Pace, Bart Scott, Bryan Thomas, Wayne Hunter, Eric Smith, and possibly Dustin Keller are GONE. Not counting Thomas who isn't signed for '13, that's in the neighborhood of 25M coming off the cap.
Drafting projects like Ducasse and Gholston have hurt the team big time. Gambling with rds 4-7 is one thing , but the first 2 rds is for drafting talent. Tanny needs to b the cap guru, and someone else needs to be in charge of personnel and the acquiring of needs.
i'm losing confidence in this team by the hour. but until they actually play out the season i won't judge. the team has been pretty good under tannenbaum but it's to a make-or-break point now, i think. if the team regresses again, i think tannenbaum may have to go. two years of progress followed by two years of regression would be bad. but if the team somehow comes-together, then, tannenbaum was right. which would be great.
I'm not defending tanny...just pointing out the obvious. There were no HIGH QUALITY RT FAs available this off season THAT WE COULD AFFORD. I guess Tanny could have decided that a RT is far more important than Revis, or Cromartie, or Mangold, or even now trade our up-and-coming Revis for a RT. Yes, there were 2 Tackles coming out of college we could have nabbed, one in the 1st round (that went in the mid 20's) but decided on Quintin Coples instead. Had Tanny went Tackel at 15, instead of Couples, we'd be saying "Tanny NEVER addressed our biggest need.....PASS RUSHHHHHHH". Then there was a lower rated Tackle still hanging around in the 2nd round, but Tanny opted to move up to grab Hill. Had he went for a lower rated Tackle instead of Hill we'd all be screaming "Tanny completely ignored our biggest need...a true #2 WR that can block like it's his job in the running game". The bottom line? 1- There were NO true RTs available during the off season. None. Tanny MOST LIKELY talked to EVERY team trying to pry one away with no success. 2- This was another very week draft for starting RTs. Every pick Tanny could have used would have been another Vlad experiment. So Tanny opted for PASS RUSHER and #2 RECEIVER instead. Can't really say I blame him there.
My point is Tanny had options in the draft and he choose to not take those options. RT has been an issue for a long time he basically did little to address the need and the longer he waited the fewer the options were available. This isn't just about Hunter its about them having no one behind Hunter who is competent to start. The NFL isn't a grocery store where you buy whatever you need when you need it, good teams coach up prospects. Tanny didn't want to spend the money on a proven RT or use a draft pick. He made his bed now he can sleep in it. This team lacks depth and I attribute that to Tanny. Look at QB for years we have been lucky Sanchez hasn't got hurt because there is no one behind him. First Brunell and now Tbow. What sort of a back up choice is Tbow? He can't come in an take over for Sanchez and run the same offense. If the O-line isn't built to ground and pound and they can't pass protect the guy you've built your team around then what is the point?
