I get your point and it's actually a valid one. 2-3 mil in cap space isn't worth a big downgrade since we have the space. In the same terms though if we could land juju at 9 mil a year he's a better WR then berrios and would fix our top 3. berrios is a WR4 and a great KR/PR. we can pay him but still need another WR. It's hard to justify paying a guy 9 mil for special teams only who will rarely see the field. if it wasn't for injuries he would have gotten no snaps really because davis, moore, crowder, and cole were all ahead of him.
Berrios said on Pardon My Take that Gase had received a call from Belichick after the Jets claimed him in which he told Gase "You guys got a helluva football player, wish we could've kept him."
If that's the starting point, so be it. Berrios contributes in a lot of different ways, he reminds me of a Wes Welker type player. We got a guy for next to nothing after being discarded and now we could let him walk over what amounts to a small % of money. I recall our punt return game being a black hole of endless fair catches year after year, now we have a guy that not only changes field position consistently, is a tough runner, as well as a decent WR that seems to be building a good chemistry with Wilson. People are worrying about him being a 4th receiver, WHAT? Moore and Davis couldn't stay healthy enough to lay claim to being above anybody on the depth chart. Davis is at best a #2 receiver and Moore, while showing promise, is just that. This team needs to keep quality football players it has within it's walls, of which, Berrios is one...
IDK that I agree that Juju is better. And we really haven't seen the top end of what Berrios can do. Bottom line: we know that Berrios adds a lot to the Jets and he has chemistry with Zach, we don't know that Juju or anyone else in the $6-10M price range will. Again, I don't want to pay $9M, but OTOH it isn't my money, so I'm not going to begrudge him for asking.
He wont get 9 million from other teams but he might get an offer of 7+ for a team that has playoff hopes. Our suckage can make signing players more expensive. Also, he earned less than half a million last year, and made all pro. Hard to evaluate this because its only a rumor, and we don't know what the signing and guaranteed money would look like.
I believe Berrios was injured in 2018 so he was on IR the whole season and in 2019 he was cut in the final wave of cuts because they drafted N'Keal Harry and still had Edelman.
he was a 6th rounder and they cut him before he ever seen the field after 1 year on IR. dontell inman and maurice harris kicked him off the team. neither of them have done squat.
Not really sure what you're arguing here. I'm relaying a piece of information that Berrios himself was told by Adam Gase. Not sure why Berrios would lie about that on one of the most listened to podcasts in the US.
Gase seems like the type of guy BB uses to pick fun at lol. either way it's possible he really liked berrios but IDK why he wouldn't have found a way to keep him. maybe he thought he could clear waivers and they would PS him I guess. either way it was a nice find by JD. he also found JFm on waivers. and huff as an UDFA and hall in the 5th and echols in the 6th and carter in the 4th. he's found some gems. he just has to hit on the early guys consistently.
The most I would give him is $6M a year on a three year deal. If he can get more elsewhere, good for him.
That's why we need Treylon Burks. He ran that with Arkansas, took direct snaps, is very fast, especially for a man his size. He is being compared to Deebo Samuel for a reason.
I have seen people write the comparisons to Deebo and Burks seems to have the straight line speed but I do not see the quickness, acceleration and speed out of cuts from Burks to be a guy that could work well on the Jet sweep. But, those are simply my observations watching only a little film of him.
I hope we can keep Berrios not only for what he can do on STs, but also for what he can contribute on offense.and because he does have great chemistry with Zach. $9 mil per season sounds very high to me, but I'm not the one who has to pay him and juggle the cap. My only hesitation is that having to pay him that much could possibly prevent JD from being able to sign an outside FA at OG or S. When it comes time to pay all these young players on a 2nd contract, we could have cap issues. I think we can sign him for less than $9 mil, somewhere between $5 and $7 million, maybe an incentive-laden contract.
Last year we thought WR was a strength…well we had numerous injuries to Davis, Crowder and Moore, Cole underperformed, Mims could barely get on the field, and we were starting guys like Smith and DJ Whatever…Berrios was the only valid WR we had on the field at the end this arguing over a couple million seems so totally foolish to me. Can we get another WR for cheaper? Sure. That’s what Cole was. I’m sure there are several others like him. So-so guys for so-so salaries. JuJu is interesting, but not really sure I’d rather have him than Berrios. Maybe I’m overrating Berrios a bit but the dude solves our PR and KR positions as one of the best in the league, and he plays hard and isn’t a head case. He’s like our version of Wayne Chrebet in a way. so if we let him walk because he’s not worth $xxx, then we still need WR help as well as returner help. Making more holes on our roster makes no sense to me when we have a guy who has proven to have chemistry with our young QB and can do multiple things. I’m not saying pay the man $16m #1WR money, but to balk at $9m because we’d only be willing to pay $7m seems silly to me. I’d feel very good about running out Davis, Moore, a rookie first round WR, and Berrios next year. I’d feel less good without him our history here sucks ass…we let Keyshawn go because of his attitude and guess what, our offense sank when he left because we had no swagger and less talent. We let Santana Moss go because he kept running punt returns out of bounds but he went on to make some pro Bowls for Washington. At another position, we traded Abraham for god knows why and we haven’t had a pass rusher since while he made pro bowls for the Falcons. It’s mind boggling that with how badly we draft over the years, we manage to give away and get rid of the few good players we did draft, all in the name of some bullshit excuses. I get that we didn’t draft Berrios, but shit, at some point, you have to figure out how to keep the pretty damn good players, not only the great ones…you will never build a team if you keep getting rid of productive players and creating more holes to fill.
He does have pretty fast acceleration. The thing you have to remember is that Berrios is what, 5'9" or less and Burks is 6'3". He is a long strider and he eats up the yards quickly. A lot of DBs in college thought they had the angle on him when he was running the ball or had caught a pass, and they learned that they didn't, that he was a lot faster than they thought. He's also good at setting defenders up. He'll slow down a little, and then suddenly speed back up. He breaks a lot of tackles. I recommend that you watch more footage of him.
