If the 2007 Jets appear to be a step back from the 2005 Jets Mangini will be fired. That's about the only scenario I see in which that will happen. 3-13 and out the door. 4-12 he probably gets another year.
The Chiefs w/ half our talent have twice as many wins. I love mangini as our Coach but he's done an awful job this year, this is the first healthy year we've had where we've been awful since the mid 90s. He's not getting fored, even if we went 2-14 he's not getting fired unless there's some sort of off field issues that creep up or some type of scandal his job is safe regardless of what happens the rest of the year and it should be. he's only in year 2.
bender is legit? how did you come to this conclusion? we moved draft positions, (jones) my bad. we gave two picks away to move up twice, true? albeit revis and harris are great, but we had more glaring needs than 2. we moved up like it would save our season and counter new englands moves. the patient approach just flew out the window. its not like revis is the next deion, harris may not be the next singletary, (especially with past injuries). the thing is our two chiefs pulled the trigger, saying patience is a virtue, while doing the opposite.
He may or he may not be. The biggest predictor of if a player can start in the NFL is that he does so shortly after his first exposure to the league. There are a lot of guys who aren't quite good enough to push out a mediocre journeyman in their first camp. Those guys tend to continue to be not quite good enough until they leave the NFL three seasons later. Randy Thomas, a 6th round pick, was the Jet's starter coming out of his first camp. Jonathan Goodwin, a 5th round pick, was still sitting on the bench coming out of his first camp and never made it with the Jets. Right now Bender is in Goodwin's situation.
no doubt bender exposed himself!!! in due fairness he was out of position, but that would be mantanys fault. if they would have paid kendall the stupid million, who knows what we could be doing as a team. his chemistry would not have been an issue if they would have given him the money. management will lose the million at the concession stand due to people being sick to their stomach while watching our running game and half ass blocking. (though semi improved)
Mangini will be here long-term, no matter what. Everyone knows he's young, and like everyone else on the team, he's gotta learn from his mistakes.
By all accounts, most scouts felt that this was one of the weaker drafts of the current decade. New England traded away their first pick, that's how good they felt about this year, if you need an example. So, I like the way we handled the draft, at the end of the day. We moved up to select two immediate impact players, which is a great move no matter how you slice it.
I am a huge pennington fan and I agree that he was awful. But when you said the "defense came along way to day", you sure you werent watching a different game?
Then Im glad you arent part of the front office. When you have so many holes to fill you dont trade away your whole draft for 2 players. Especially 2 players who play positions that mean almost nothing when you have maybe the worst D Line in football.
We traded 2 out of 6 picks of or our draft and we also picked up a solid NFL starting RB. The trades we did in this draft cost us 1 body.
Funny how the only sure fire D-lineman suitable for the 3-4 was already picked. So you would rather they draft a body just to say, "hey look at us we filled a hole with a mediocre player" rather than the alternative in a weak draft, which is get the best of the lot available and fill a need for the next 6 years. So to summise I am equally glad you are not part of the front office. They drafted the best players available and both look like they are going to be at the very least solid starters with Pro-bowl potential. yeah the FO screwed up horribly
Sorry I missed this before but Randy Thomas was a can't miss guard who we took in the second round in 1999. He was not a project OL men and plenty of OL men are developed in the NFL.
with everything in consideration maybe our line coach should be replaced...i'm sure his input also allowed kendall to walk, believing what we had could take over?
if Mangini put as much time into his game planning as he puts into his growing portfolio of commercials ... maybe his job wont be in jeopardy :breakdance:
For three games in a row the LG has not been a problem at all. The problem with our OL is Kareem McKenzie, Randy Thomas and Becht, are playing for another team because of the last GM and HC. If our OL was DBrick, Thomas, Mangold, Moore and McKenzie and we could line up Becht and Baker in a two TE package, the OL would be one of the strongest units in the league. The failure of Bradway and Herm is the problem with the OL not letting an average, undersized, old guard who is not part of the long term answer to a rebuilding team walk for money. The fact is that after a couple of games the guy who is replacing him is younger and bigger and playing pretty well, makes this move look better every day.
Mangini will absolutely be back. This is a down year; I am not completely sure why. Are record is not indicative of our talent; I do not think were as nearly prepared for the start of the season this year as we should have been. Our lines are struggling. Chad is not he pivot point of this whole mess; not Mangini completely either; but, the finger willpoint to him. I thinnk the only way Mangini' job becomes jeopardized is if at 1-6 he does not start Cmens the following week; he keeps on riding the chad horse; we balloon to 1-8 or 1-9; then he changes to Clemens and we finish 3-13. It is very simple; we are not 3-13 talent; no way; not at all. We are not playoff talent either. This team is fully capable of 7-9 or 8-8. This year has been disappointing by anyone's standards. Man, I wish we drafted Peterson; that's a real running back. He will out-perform Bush hands down as time goes by. He will be more durable, too.
We didn't have a pick anywhere in his vicinity and were't going to get one short of a silly double trade up. He's also 50/50 to be an injury case in his first few seasons given his playing style and physique. Eric Dickerson was a unique player who also managed to avoid the injury bug.
