Jenkins has proved something most of us have known but the Jets coaches of the past didn't seem to grasp. In the 3-4 you need a HUGE NT to be good. Well I think Jenkins was the best pickup this off season and he isn't proving me wrong. Yet, with his back problems and age we need to think about his replacement sooner than later. I say we need to have scouts watching Terrence Cody of Alabama. Yes he is slow and raw, but a wall doesn't have to move to be effective. Terrence Cody 6-5, 360 5.45 Alabama To be honest he does have a weight problem and he been noted as high as 395 pounds, but that just makes him harder to move. How high he will go in the draft is still far from being decided and could be anywhere from a 1st to 3rd round pick. Regardless of what you may think he is the best 3-4 NT prospect in college and after a year or two behind Jenkins to learn he should be a solid player. At worst case he would be better than shithead we paid two 1st rounders and tons of money for and was a complete bust.
This is important. New England just ran the hurry up and kept Jenkins off the field and that's when NE went on the tear. When Jenkins was in, namely the first half, the Jets dominated. Pouha just doesn't cut it. IMO we should draft young talent to learn behind Jenkins and spell him when needed. Copy cat league, other teams will realize, keep Jenkins off the field = points.
I completely agree. One thing that worries me going foward is that teams will start going to a no-huddle earlier in games against the Jets from here on out . . . I am really looking for Mangini to make some changes to make sure we can cope with this scenario. (Of course, not every team has fucking Wes Welker, Gaffney, Ben Watson, Randy Moss, and Kevin Faulk to spread defenses out with . . . )
The Pats did kick ass against the no huddle. Anyone know the percentage of time Jenkins was on the field on Thursday. In comparison to the rest of the year. I heard the announcers say they were keeping him off the field. And nice observation on Lowery getting picked on, as usual.
It seems we arer all in agreement, the team should draft a big NT this time around. Now will the current coaching staff agree?
Exactly how did the Jets coaches "not grasp" this? This was the first offseason that I remember reports of guys like Jenkins or Shaun Rogers being available. We inquired about both and brought in Jenkins, then moved out D-rob for nothing but the cap space. In the previous 2 drafts the only guy available that is starting on a 3-4 line is Nagata. We chose to shore up the left tackle instead of Nose that year and that is working out ok. Who would you have brought in to fix the problem earlier? If our coaches did not grasp this why did they bring in Jenkins? I'd love to take a shot at getting Cody and to a lesser extent Raji, but both should be gone in the first or second round. Depending on how we finish its not likely they will be around were we pick.
Both he and his , Ron Brace, would be great. Those dudes know how to eat space. I jumped on the Cody bandwagon, but the fact is the dude is just a really athletic fat guy. He needs to get in shape and learn to use proper technique. He reminds me of Jenkins, and Jenkins would be a great mentor, but he's more project than prospect if he comes out this year. He has the potential to be the best DT prospect since Ngata, but he needs to drop that weight and learn some technique. Ngata is a beast. I just have to throw that out there. By far the most underrated D-linemen in the league...at least IMO. He's going to get Haynesworth level hype soon, and he's got a way better track record.
"To be honest he does have a weight problem and he been noted as high as 395 pounds, but that just makes him harder to move." People get fatter as they get older. A lot of athletes who looked too skinny in college filled out perfect in the pros. Look at McFadden, people said he had chicken legs and now he's built. But it goes the other way too, if this guy is too fat now he'll be waaay too fat in a couple of years. This works for wives as well, too skinny turns into just right and just right turns into fat.
You do realize our current NT was once a "too fat" guy playing at around 400 pounds. It has nothing to do with age but with work ethic and eating habbits. If you have a guy with Cody's, or Jenkin's, frame and build you can get them to play at the weight you want with the type of contract that the jets threw at Jenkins. Part of his deal is based on him making weight several times a year. If Cody is near 400, he can get to the right weight. He has been a beast in the middle of one of hte best run stopping D's in the country this year. It would be great to get a young player like this in green and white.
Truth. It's not weight that matters, which you guys don't grasp. It's raw strength. Jenkins is probably one of the strongest guys in the NFL. D-Rob was weak and lazy. A fat lazy guy does you no good. See Jimmy Kennedy. Dude is listed at 320 but is really closer to 340 and he sucks. You don't want a fat guy with no motivation or discipline who will eat himself out of the league and will get winded after 5 plays.
Exactly. It isn't getting the biggest player that is important. It is finding the best conditioned big player.
Cody's playing really well tonight, and it looks like he's getting in better shape rather than staying fat. Jenkins is actually the guy I've compare him to as a pro. Shaun Rogers is another guy in a similar fashion. Theres plays where he's eating 3 blockers, and he's got a motor. He's still too big of an unknown for me, but his raw size and strength is fuckin ridiculous. I think Andre Smith is a better guard prospect than T prospect. He's an elite G prospect, Shawn Andrews style. Rashad Johnson would be a great compliment to Rhodes.
We def. have some needs on the defensive side of the ball. Cody reminds me ALOT of Jenkins w/ his shear size and quickness of the snap...he's a decent option. We'll also being looking at: -The final longterm piece to the secondary -A Middle linebacker w/ coverage skills to compliment Harris -OL Depth -DL Depth(see cody) - An offensive difference maker
