Hey, I know we have a good amount of LB's, but I have to say, with the 29, if he is still there, we should def. try and grab Manny Lawson, this guy could be this years shawne merriman. He is big, fast and can hit. Also, if we trade down, I think A.J. Hawk would be a good fit too. Say what you want , but Hawk and Vilma together would be lethal.
the only way we get hawl is if we trade down to the 5 spot. i fhes still on the board when the packers pick you can bet your ass theyll take him
all depends on our 4th pick. If we get mario at 4, i think we should run a 4-3 in which case we wouldn't really need to get a linebacker that high. But, if dont get mario, we should get a linebacker. I really dont think manny will fall, and i've been wanting mangold at that slot. If he does fall, the question becomes, who is mroe likely to fall, which would probably be mangold. So in conclusion (unnecessarily long post), if we dont get mario, yes we must get manny if he falls. If we do get mario, i think we should go with mangold or a tackle.
If we're sitting at 29 and looking at Mangold v. the best LB available, I take Mangold in a heartbeat. This year's LB class is pretty deep, and I'd venture to say that you can get someone of decent quality later in day 1- but not AJ Hawk type material obviously.
You are giving Mario too much credit. Do you really think that our defensive system completely depends on whether we draft this one guy? I definitely don't, and I truly think that we will transition to the 3-4 whether he is a Jet or not. In regards to the LB's, I would have absolutely no problem taking Hawk at #4. He is a definite top 5 talent in this draft, and the thought of having hawk and vilma as our Pro Bowl LB duo for the next 10 years gives me chills...
I agree with Nabbing Lawson if he is avaliable (he wont be). This guy would be the "rush" OLB ala Jerry Porter. Imagine Barton, Hobson, Vilma, and Lawson. Whats with all the hate about with Victor Hobson. This guy has been plaing out of position for the past 3 years, and doing a decent job. He is really suited for the "Hammer" position in a 3-4. If he moves inside, watch this guy shine, remember him and Larry Foote at MICH??
i like mario, but dont forget that team (NC State) was stacked on defense (esp along the line) lawson isn't getting the credit he should because he's kinda of a tweener, but probably will fit in the best in the 3-4 their are a handful of guys i like (hawk but not at 4, lawson, carpenter, havner, parham..i think thats how you spell it...he ran bad..but hes smart and mangini might be able to work with him..could be a late late pick, wimbley, their are a handful of college ends that can be converted, which is what belicheck has done over the years...also converting DT's to ends in the 3-4 too)
Not neccessarily true as some mock drafts have Hawk falling out of the top 10. The problems some people have with Hawk is they feel he is best suited to be an isinder LB and a top 5 or even a top 10 pick is to valuable to spend on an inside LB. The scenario where he would fall would be if the Saints take D'Brick and the Jets don't take Hawk or Williams or trade down. The packers would then take Williams. The Raiders, Niners, Bills, Lions, and cardinals would all lean against taking Hawk. But the odds of all of them not taking him would be slim. So if the Saints go with D'Brick we could trade down to 7 with a good chance of getting Hawk assuming who we trade with does not take Williams.
One thing that is driving me crazy is this idea that we need to trade down exactly one draft spot in order for picking Hawk to be a good pick. That's complete BS. The year we drafted Vilma, everyone was happy with the pick (like most would be with Hawk), but a lot of people were also complaining that we probably could've traded down another 5 picks and got him. This just isn't realistic. Teams only trade up or down when they REALLY REALLY REALLY want something... the NFL is not Madden! If we missed Vilma, then everyone would be torching Bradway for blowing that pick too. Also, trading down isn't always a good thing. Remember when Parcells kept trading down and we ended up with Dorian Boose?
