I kind of agree with the assessment that he needs a strong-armed accurate QB to be worth much. Somebody like Steve McNair. I honestly disagree that he'd ever be a good 2nd receiver even with that strong-armed guy throwing to him. Some guys just really don't have the focus to be reliable on the deep ball. You have to catch those balls every time when you're wide open or it's a huge morale issue for your team. McCareins will drop one every now and then when he's behind the defenders and the ball is thrown well. You just can't do that if your forte is the deep route, which his is. Some guys have the focus at some times and don't have it at others. Santana Moss can be all on or he can forget where the sideline is. Some guys have it all the time. I can recall Laveranues Coles dropping maybe one or two catchable balls deep in the years he has been playing. Maybe one or two. Jerrico Cotchery is one of the most focused recievers I've ever seen. That's how he catches the ball and then makes yards after the catch out of nowhere. That's a Torry Holt trait too and I'm wondering if there's something in the water at UNC.
McCareins was on the roster when Dinger was brought into the fold in 2005. I agree with other posters that his speed is overrated. I attended the Vikings game last year, and Chad hit him on a fly route, he was wide open, he caught the ball in stride, and then was caught from behind. They didn't even score a TD on the play (may have even failed to score on the FG attempt because of Graham's dropsies). He did score a long TD vs. the Lions last year, but it was more because he outjumped the defender than ran past him (partly because Chad short-armed the ball). My positive memory will be the TD he caught in the fourth quarter vs. Cleveland in 2004. Wasn't a spectacular catch, but was a must win for Jets after Pennington went down and Carter was playing.
I hate to say this guys but it would be a big mistake to trade mccareins for a 4th or 5th round pick. We know the player we take with that pick won't have a much of an immediate impact. What the heck are we going to do at receiver if Coles or Cotchery goes down? All I am saying is that athough Justin is not good, we defenitely need him for depth at the position, because if someone goes down, we are screwed.
"but was a must win for Jets after Pennington went down and Carter was playing." We should bring quincy carter back....ALL PRO BABY...haha
What are we going to do if Coles or Cotchery goes down and McCareins is on the roster? I'd much rather hand the job to somebody like Brad Smith and find out if they're a plus player than give it to McCareins knowing that he is not.
the wr position is directly effected by the qb position. if j mac is smart he is taking a lot of reps with kellen in front of as much of the cs staff as possible...it would be in his favor to have the coaching staff watch him run and complete a 15yd out ...it's a very efective play for an offense to have ..
I honestly wouldn't mind keeping J-mac around for depth. He really isn't all that bad, but of course, if wind up getting rid of him, I hope we get a trade going so we can get something for him.
That sounds like the 2005 J-Mac to me.. in '06, his opportunities were much more limited, but he made good on those he had...
This was always the confounding thing about Justin... it was the damnest thing, really. I watched him at TC a year ago August. He was absolutely awesome. He'd be the first on the field to start warming up. In the windsprints at the end of the day, it was Justin McCareins who was really pouring it on, end zone to end zone. And when practice was all over and everyone headed for the showers, I noticed there was still a guy out on the field with one of the coaches practicing "sideways catches." He'd run from left to right and have the ball thrown to him so he had to catch it sideways. Then he'd run in the opposite direction and have to catch the ball with the other hand, again sideways. That guy was Justin McCareins. I was so high on this guy going into Sept, 2005 it wasn't funny. But then he turned out to be one of those guys who looks fantastic in practice and bombs out under pressure. I kept hoping things would change throughout '05-'06 and they didn't. 2006-2007 didn't change things, although he did have a few memorable catches, but nothing I'd say were good enough to make a compelling argument for why we should keep him. And here we go now, heading into 2007. And I have no idea what happened when he showed up "out of shape" last fall, but where there's smoke there's fire.
All that really matters is: can we replace his function for less than what we are paying now? I think trading him means that we eat his SB @ something like at least a million a year, which means if we find someone with his ability that we can pay less than 2 million cause we'll still be paying his other million, and don't forget that that other person won't have any idea how to run in our offense, while J-smack does...hey, maybe kellen can even turn him into a superstar? All I do know is that his skill set doesn't really fit our offense right now, but is still worth better than a 6 or 7 just because of the above reasons.
I think you got your facts all backwards. Dinger was the one who got rid of him in TN cause he was the OC there when JMaC was traded. It was none other then that Herm our HC who brought him to us. Then Herm brought Dinger to us & him & JMaC were reunited. Check it out!
I don't need to check anything out. I knew there was a Heimerdinger connection, but failed to remember the order in which the two people arrived here. Someone already beat you to it (in reminding me of this) so there's no need to pile on with this unless you're simply bored out of your mind today and have nothing better to do than remind posters of minor errors in their posts that have already been cited. Be that as it may, it doesn't change my post. He was still a bad fit, whether it was Heimerdinger who brought him here or Herman Edwards.
Yes I agree that JMaC did not belong here but when he flashed by Herm in that MNF game Herm must have said he was his man & went out & got him
You, good sir, and I mean this with all respect, are a liar. Actually, in 2006 JMAC stunk up the place. There were several key plays where with extra effort, ala Coles or more specifically Cotchery, he would have made the catch and given us a big play. JMAC is too pussified in his play, I don't know if he's afraid of taking the big hit or just can't finish key plays for whatever reason, but he is NOT your guy when you're talking "Mr. Clutch".
Yeah, this is the bottom line. When was the last time anyone ever saw McCareins extend himself in an all-or-nothing attempt to make a catch? As far as JMac flashing by Herm and then Herm wanting him, that wouldn't surprise me. But Herm also liked flash, period. He had an affinity for the Hollywood types, the Ty Laws of the world, for example. In his mind, anything with flash has to be good for the team. JMac is a good looking kid with a movie star appearance and demeanor, and that, to Herm, always represented a player that he had to have, for some unknown reason. He probably equates good looks and confident personality with good performance. This also explains playing the popular, known quantities, like Anthony Becht or Curtis, for example, even though the guy was headed for a wheel chair and the fresh, non-flashy Lamont Jordan sat on the bench begging to play. In Herm's insecure mind, if you surround yourself with aging but once productive talent, as well as the latest buzz-word in the NFL (Ty Law) as well as people who look good (if they look good they must play well), you almost all but eliminate criticism if you fail because you can always turn around and say, "Hey, look at these guys! They're a great looking football team! This loss isn't MY fault!" I am SOOOOO happy we got a 4th for this imbecile and Leon Washington with the pick to boot!
