Mo Wilkerson vs Marcel Dareus revisted

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  1. geno75

    geno75 Active Member

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    Anyone who doesn't think Wilkerson is getting at least a Dareus contract is crazy.

    Going into the year their stats were very similar, but this year Wilk is doubling his production.

    Dareus also has had a history of off the field problems and he still got paid.
     
  2. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    Problem is Dareus doesn't deserve Dareus money.. and if we give Mo that then our squad will stay relatively the same for the next few years.. but honestly i must say i wouldn't mind. We're still not paying a franchise QB, so that's fine. Ferguson might have to get moved for this to happen. I'll hip hip hooray to that.. Ferg has been a piss off to me the last 3 years and highly overpaid while doing so. Cro can get cut but we won't gain or lose anything from that money wise. & We'll only be paying Revis another 2 years. Richardson has earned himself an extended wait before a pay day.

    so i'm guessing pay wilk a 5 or 6 yr deal front loaded...
    Sheldon has 2 more years + an option i believe on his deal so by the time Wilk's done getting his guaranteed big money over the first 3 years of his deal i guess we can start looking at Sheldon's pay day after his option year.

    Then 3 years later there's Leonard Williams's pay day to look forward to.. and Wilk's extension will be up by then.. hopefully taking hometown discount to retire a jet!

    After all this we most likely still won't be paying a franchise QB lmfao
     
  3. STARoSCREAM

    STARoSCREAM Well-Known Member

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    I believe Sheldon has only one more year then an option for the 5th, but we can always franchise him. If he's listed at D-tackle i would assume the franchise tag for DTs isnt extremely high
     
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  4. JetLifeLo

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    damn really.. idk why i thought 1st round picks get 5 year rookie deals THEN the option. i guess its 4 plus the option.. thanks for that.

    And i never even thought it of that way.. Sheldon being tagged as a DT for cheap. He's always listed as a DT by the NFL even though he's clearly our RE lol.

    But wouldn't Suh's mega-OD contract play part in sheldon's franchise tagging?
     
  5. BrowningNagle

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    Wilkerson is outplaying Dareus this year for sure. For their career though I think Dareus has shown to be a slightly better player although they are different, I don't think they necessarily should be directly compared. Dareus got overpaid anyway. (at least for 2015. The rest of Dareus' contact is only guaranteed for injury)

    Wilkerson is having his best NFL season yet, which makes one wonder: Is he having such a great year because he's progressing and a better fit in Bowles' defense? Or is he having a great year because he wants that contract?

    Its probably a little bit of both but I would want to make absolutely sure the guy will still bring it every play like he is this year after receiving a big contract before I gave it to him. The staff and front office would have a better read on him than anyone and thats what they get paid money for, to be right on things like this...
     
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  6. Jetaho

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    Mo is a great player and I'd love to keep him, but I don't think we should sign him to a huge deal at the expense of other areas of need. With all the depth we have at the position, I think we can absorb the loss. It's strictly a business decision.
     
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    Yeah i didn't consider Suh, but i believe the Franchise tag is based on the top 5 at the position. The biggest DT contracts are probably Suh, Dareus and.......(too lazy to look it up at the moment) But i can't imiagine there are too many Suh-like contracts out there
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Mo is a game-changer, you don't let players like that go especially home-grown talent. This depth you speak of, Sheldon is 1 toke away from a year long suspension [with a potential suspension looming next season]; Leonard Williams still needs to develop.

    We cannot absorb the loss, I disagree.
     
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  9. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    We should sign Mo and pay him. Negotiate like hell until the deal makes sense for both sides.

    Richardson is too much of an uncertainty, likely missing more games next year and possibly still hasn't learned he can't smoke weed.
     
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    The Jets have to pay Wilk. Sheldon is a great player but he isn't as reliable. Wilkerson is not only our best pass rusher but he's been our best every down player on the defensive side of the ball all year.
     
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  11. JetLifeLo

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    I think people are being a little too hard on Sheldon. Yes he's had a very very very bad week over the summer but it's the only sort of off the field issue he had in his short career. I don't see him as a bad person i see him as a kid who made a mistake and now has no choice but to continue doing the RIGHT thing. I'm pretty damn sure he was drug tested again after that incident since weed was involved, and us not hearing that he failed another probably means he didn't.

    Hes young and he made a mistake.. a BAD person would continue to keep making mistakes and until sheldon shows that he's not capable of staying out of trouble ( aldon, josh gordon, hardy ) or becomes a locker room distraction then i think people should hold off on the harsh judgement.

    Yeah he might have screwed up his chances at an EARLY pay day but i still think he will get his pay day barring any set backs.
     
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    Count me in for being crazy. I wouldnt pay him anywhere near that. Id say 6 years 85mil. Why would we match dumb contracts.

    Dareus makes 4 million less than JJ watt. and JJ is well, JJ

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/marcell-dareus/

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/j.j.-watt/
     
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    I don't think he's a bad person, but he needs to have a few off-seasons of 0 drama to completely earn the trust of the FO.
     
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    If Von Miller or Bruce Irvin hit free agency I'd rather spend top dollar on them, than Wilkerson. Not sure how likely that may be but I guess the point is we would probably be better off investing big money elsewhere on defense given the rest of the talent on d-line.

    I love Wilk, but there's a cap and there's no point pouring all your defensive money into 3-4 linemen.
     
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    I don't know what the solution is, but the Jets can't pay big money to all 3 of those DL. That would be nuts. That's not how one builds a championship team. They're going to have to let at least one of those 3 go elsewhere, maybe two if they all get greedy. If Mauldin keeps improving and making the plays he has, he's gonna want to get paid too, and pass-rushing OLBs are worth a LOT more than 3-4 DL who don't excel at pressuring opposing QBs like Watt.
     
  16. JetLifeLo

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    only way im letting Wilk go is if it were a sacrifice for a QUARTERBACK. There's almost no other reason NOT to pay Wilkerson. What else do we need bad enough to pour Wilks hard earned money into them instead? o-line? draft. TE? long as chan is here no need. Secondary is set for now and later. Bowles has figured out a way to rotate Henderson and Demario Davis so he's getting the best out of them at what they do best. LB isn't a pressing need. Mauldin has become an edge rusher and will only get better. QB appears to be held down for at least the next 3 years. HB is a good group but they are cheap anyway.

    i mean seriously what would be the come up about letting Wilk walk?
     
  17. STARoSCREAM

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    Not sure I'd want to pay the price that Von Miller will demand, and Irvin if you can get him at a bargain, definietly not worth paying as a top rusher
     
  18. JetLifeLo

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    i mean Snacks could go.. he only gets about 45% of the snaps anyway. Also did u see how Bowles used sheldon last game? He is a SICK OLB!
     
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    Understandable that Wilk's initial position is a 3-4 lineman, but he's extremely versatile and can play in any scheme.

    Bruce Irvin more than likely will join Dan Quinn in Atlanta - I would pass on him completely and not look to go in on a bidding war, he's overrated. Von Miller leaving the Broncos is a pipe-dream. The future of Leonard Williams and Sheldon is yet to be determined.

    Wilk is a proven player on and off the field.
     
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    Snacks is the one that will be leaving this team, he doesn't play on 3rd down anyway.
     

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