NY Times article- Jet tickets

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  1. sec314

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/31/sports/football/31tickets.html?_r=1&ref=sports

    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — Saturday night’s preseason game between the Giants and the Jets drew a crowd announced as 74,255 to Giants Stadium, which seats 80,242.

    The Jets and the Giants will begin playing in a new stadium at the Meadowlands next year, but all the seats may not be full.

    The game, a 27-25 Jets victory, was the last between the teams in their current stadium in the Meadowlands. Next year, they will move next door to a new stadium costing $1.6 billion. It will seat about 82,500.

    But in selling seats for both stadiums during a severe recession, Jets and Giants officials are facing economic forces that have been daunting even big-ticket sports franchises in major markets.

    The Giants, who still have seats to sell for some games this season, have not found buyers for about 3,000 club season tickets for 2010, some in the best locations at the highest prices.

    And the Jets lag behind the Giants. They said they still had “a few thousand” season tickets remaining for 2009 and were advertising half-season packages.

    As for 2010 in the new stadium, the Jets are not providing specific sales figures for suites, club seats with personal seat licenses or nonclub seats because, they said, it was too early to know.

    “Right now, we are sort of in the middle of the process,” said Thad Sheely, the Jets’ executive vice president for stadium development. “We still have some selling to do.”

    Jim Lites, a senior consultant contracted by the Giants to sell seats in the new stadium, acknowledged that the recession and the higher ticket costs for 2010 were having a chilling effect.

    “There is a point at some price that people won’t purchase a product,” Lites said. “It’s still a bit of sticker shock. There has been some pushback on the price.”

    The gentrification of stadium seating in sports reached a new threshold this year with the opening of the new Yankee Stadium. Some seats in rows closest to the plate were initially priced at $2,500 a game.

    Some went unsold. And although unsold grandstand seats at N.F.L. games could lead to local television blackouts, the league said that empty club seats or suites would not remove games from local broadcasts.

    Lites said the Coaches Club behind the Giants’ bench has 2,093 seats that require a $20,000 personal seat license and $700 per ticket for 10 games, including two exhibitions.

    About 400 are still available, Lites said, as well as about 2,600 other club seats in less-expensive locations. The rest of the main stadium is sold, he said, and demand for those lower-priced seats exceeded the supply.

    But the luxury suites are still available. The Giants said they had leased slightly more than 60 percent of the approximately 200 suites, totaling about 4,000 seats.

    That sales figure has moved only marginally from the Giants’ report from almost a year ago of more than 50 percent.

    Mike Stevens, the chief marketing officer for the Giants, said the most expensive suites, costing $500,000 a season, were taken, as were the lowest-priced suites, which cost about $150,000. But the suites in between have not generated as much demand.

    “At the depths of the recession, it was not an opportune time to talk to people about a product like suites,” Stevens said. “But in the last couple of weeks to a few months, receptivity levels have changed. We have a lot of agreements in the pipeline.”

    Suites for Giants games will have from 12 to 26 seats, he said. The Jets’ suites, Sheely said, will have 12 to 30 seats, totaling about 5,000.

    The best suites, Sheely said, feature “outdoor terraces and a private, all-inclusive club modeled after New York clubs like the University Club or the Racquet Club, with fireplaces and dark wood paneling.”

    But when asked how many suites had been sold, Sheely said, “We are not publicly discussing numbers.”

    As for this season’s unsold tickets, Matt Higgins, the Jets’ executive vice president for business operations, said: “That’s another number we’re not disclosing. We have a few thousand left and we’ll be sold out by opening day.”

    Although the top personal seat license for the Giants is $20,000, the Jets sold some through an auction for as much as $85,000, Sheely said. The Jets’ Web site lists the most expensive remaining P.S.L.’s at $30,000.

    After Giants fans expressed reluctance to buy some corner mezzanine seats for $400 a game, the Giants reduced the price of 1,596 of them to $250, although the license fees for those seats remained $7,500.

    The P.S.L.’s, a new concept in the New York market, help pay the construction cost of the new stadium. Lites said they could be sold on the secondary market and transferred to new owners.

    P.S.L.’s allow fans the right to buy tickets perpetually. Lites said some customers with $10,000 P.S.L.’s for the Giants were already trying to sell their rights online for $20,000.

    “I don’t know if they’re successful,” Lites said. “We won’t recognize the transfer — unless it’s to an immediate family member — prior to 2011.”

    The sticker shock, as Lites called it, was felt throughout the waiting list for season tickets. Some fans waited for decades but refused to buy seats for 2010 when given the chance.

    One was Gina Alfonso of Nanuet, N.Y., who waited 24 years. “I got an e-mail saying there were tickets available and to grab them,” she said. “It said, ‘Dear Giants Wait List Member.’ ”

    But when she read the terms, she said, she was “surprised and disappointed” at the prices.

    “I didn’t call them,” she said. “It’s hard for a normal fan to go.”

    Albert Cruz of Hastings-on-Hudson, N.Y., had a similar reaction when he was asked to renew his Jets season tickets for next year. He has sat in the fourth row for 25 years, he said. His tickets cost $90.

    For next year, he said, he was offered midlevel seats with P.S.L.’s from $8,000 to $9,000 and per-game prices of $400 to $500.

    “They’re just too darn expensive,” Cruz said. “As a loyal fan, I feel shafted.”

    The Jets said many customers were financing their licenses through the Jets at 6.5 percent interest over five years, or 8 percent over 15 years.

    The Giants said they had allowed some extended payment plans, but that few customers had requested them.

    “We decided very early on we did not want to play the role of being a financier,” Stevens said.

    The Jets’ top price for a P.S.L., outside of an auction, is $30,000 and the lowest is $4,000, according to their Web site. The Giants’ lowest P.S.L.’s sell for $1,000.

    The Jets will sell 27,000 seats in the upper bowl with no P.S.L.’s. But that will not matter to Ed Ranieri of Staten Island, who has had Jets season tickets since 1986. He is giving them up.

    “It got too expensive,” he said, adding: “They came out with a new stadium we don’t need. It’s all about the money. They ruined a nice thing. I still love the Jets, but I’ll watch on TV.”
     
  2. Barry the Baptist

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    Somebody explain shit too me? Is it 100 dollars for every season since we've won the SB?

    "The Jets’ top price for a P.S.L., outside of an auction, is $30,000 and the lowest is $4,000, according to their Web site. The Giants’ lowest P.S.L.’s sell for $1,000."
     
  3. DHarris52

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    There is no way...NO WAY that stadium was at 93% capacity.
     
  4. Section 227. Row 5

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    ?There is a point at some price that people won?t purchase a product,? Lites said.

    Ya think?
     
  5. Don

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    This is the most interesting line in that entire article.

    "The Giants, who still have seats to sell for some games this season"

    The giants had always been sold out for generations where tickets would be willed from father to son, etc. For them to have unsold seats this year is truly remarkable.
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The Giants charge for PSLs in the upperdeck too. My understanding is that the overall total for PSLs is about the same for both teams.
     
  7. Wah

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    I'd like to know who the out-of-touch moron is that thought these prices were reasonable.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Jerry Jones?
     
  9. CatoTheElder

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    The backlash begins. They are going to have a very tough time selling these remaining PSLs. Maybe Woody will get the message, stop being a complete, out of touch idiot, and...wow, couldn't even finish that one.
     
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    Have the Wilpons gotten the message regarding Mets tickets? Woody won't either.

    Stop and look at those numbers again. $500 for a single game ticket? $8000 for the right to spend $5000 for 8 regular season games?

    As much as there's been some fan push back, the fact that we're even debating how unfair the prices shows just how f---d up the world is. These owners should've be run out of town on the new Stadium rail...right into the Hudson with cement shoes on.
     
  11. Poeman

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    With these ticket prices...I will never go to see a football game. $50,000? Yeah right...
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    If you are not in the upper deck and maybe even there you may never see the same person sitting next to you ever again at any game you may go to.
     
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    Jerry Jones did this is Dallas BUT there is only one football team there. I took a trip to Dallas a week and a half ago and was in town when they played their first preseason game in the new stadium. The entire area is diehard Dallas fans and they live eat breathe football. The fans also feel that he has left some "affordable" seating options which we don't have. Uppers might be PSL free but $95 as the cheapest seat. Loyalty is a two way street and ownership hasn't been loyal to us.
     
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    I've been saying all along, when a cold, rainy game day comes and the Jets are playing out the string, tickets outside will be $20 tops. Dark wood paneling or no dark wood paneling. Fuck their PSLs.
     
  15. Don

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    Latest email says that season tickets are sold out but individual games are available. Probably just bull and they took what was left and gave them to ticketmaster to sell.



    Limited Jets Tickets Now Available via Ticketmaster

    Season tickets are sold out for the 2009 Jets season - but limited single-game tickets are now available via Ticketmaster.
    Quantities and locations vary on a game-by-game basis so buy now before your tickets are gone!
    Use this link or go to http://www.ticketmaster.com/ and search 'Jets' to see available tickets.

    1 Jets Drive| Florham Park, New Jersey 07932 | Phone:(973) 549-4600 | Fax (973) 549-4610
     
  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Buy NFL Season Ticket from Direct TV. Go to a local sports bar that has Direct TV. Bring a couple of 6-packs over to the brother-in-laws and watch on his Direct TV.

    There are so many ways to watch the NFL right now that anybody who gets shut out by local blackouts is doing it to themselves, and anybody who pays extortionate prices to go to the stadium should have their head examined.

    If the NFL wants to make the stadium for the wealthy only then let them. It's not like you'll miss the game unless you're actively trying to.
     
  17. abyzmul

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    Dallas fans can also spend 30-something bucks to stand in the 'party pass' area, kind of like the way they did it at the Roman coliseum - up in kind of an open area in decent view of the endzone. Owners are edging the blue collar fan out, so they will continue to improve technology for the blue collar fan to watch it somewhere other than the stadium, and the owner can sell seats and boxes to corporations. None of these high-dollar stadiums will ever be blacked out.

    Someday they will have mock stadiums full of holographic imagery technology where the everyday Joe can by a 20-40 dollar ticket to watch a fully 3-dimensional representation of the game in real time. A faux-live experience. It's going to happen.
     
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    Mayor Mike Bloomberg.
     
  19. rico college

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    It's a very sad day.

    I still remember my dad taking my to games at shea. There is no way I could afford to take my kids nowadays. Good thing tickets are still dirt cheap out here where I live. I am sure I will be in ten row behind the jets bench in oakland for $60 just like last year.
     
  20. Imagesrdecieving

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    The other thing that is missing with the PSL's that Dallas has is right of first refusal on ticket purchases for all other events at the stadium. It would be a much better investment if you knew you could resell tix for whatever teenybopper pop group that is performing.

    It isn't really a PERSONAL seat license if it is owned by more than one person.
     

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