Reasons to be Optimistic about Geno Smith this year

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Ron Jaworski likes the Jets’ future with Geno Smith
    Posted by Josh Alper on June 29, 2015, 3:24 PM EDT
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    Jets quarterback Geno Smith hasn’t found many admirers in his first two NFL seasons, but the Jets haven’t found a surefire replacement for the 2013 second-round pick which means that he’s the favorite to be under center when they start the 2015 season as well.

    Some, including Smith’s teammate Willie Colon, have shared their opinion that Smith’s play could hold back a Jets team with a talented defense and improved group of offensive skill position players. Colon also said that he thought Smith was pushed into the lineup before he was ready to play, something that Ron Jaworski of ESPN agreed with while sharing his own positive take on Smith’s growth as a quarterback.

    “I think Geno, when I’ve looked at him now for a couple of years in the NFL, I see a quarterback that’s getting better,” Jaworski said, via the team’s website. “He’s forgotten the mistakes and I still remember going to Morgantown, West Virginia for his Pro Day and outside of Robert Griffin III –- it was one of the best pro days I’ve seen. So he can make every throw, he can do everything it takes to be an NFL quarterback. It’s just about consistency. It’s now Year 3 and believe me we put these guys way before their time out there on the field and we expect a Peyton Manning performance. It doesn’t happen. I see a nice growth every single year in Geno and I like the future of the Jets with Geno Smith at quarterback.”

    Greg Cosell of NFL Films wasn’t quite as bullish about Smith, but gave the Jets high marks at receiver and running back when he said “they have people in place” to help Smith be more successful in 2015. That cast won’t matter without the gains in consistency that Jaworski mentions, however, and the Jets won’t know until Smith is under fire whether or not he’s able to fix the problems of the past to be the leader the Jets need on offense.
     
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    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    This is Geno's 3rd season. If the Jets had played the QB card correctly they would have had Geno on the bench his first two seasons 'learning', with this being his first season under center.

    Which Geno would be better this season? A Geno Smith that watched and learned the last 2 seasons from the bench, or the Geno Smith who has experienced the highs and lows and the speed of the game. Did starting Geno from day one ruin him? Or would he play better this season if he had watched from the sidelines his first 2 years?

    I'm not sure, what's your take?
     
  3. Pocket Jet

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    I tend to agree with this statement. If the A-Hole who was the prior head coach didn't get our starter injured in the 4th quarter of a meaningless pre-season game, chances are Geno would have been on the bench his rookie season and learning. Not for certain, but most likely a good chance. He would have been better served to learn, watch, listen, and be on the sidelines to get a better understanding. At least that is where he should have been.
     
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    If the Jets had played the QB card correctly they would have drafted Teddy.

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  6. pdxdrew

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    Would sitting on his butt really have helped by now? He still would have to learn a whole new system. You can only teach and simplify so much any way.
     
  7. JStokes

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    Lest we forget.

    http://nypost.com/2006/05/13/steal-of-the-draft-jaws-had-jets-clemens-rated-no-1-qb/

    STEAL OF THE DRAFT; JAWS HAD JETS’ CLEMENS RATED NO. 1 QB

    Ron Jaworski knows quarterbacks. He was a pretty good one in college, carved out a solid NFL career, and takes a lot of pride in his breakdown of QBs in his current role as an ESPN analyst.

    Ask him about Kellen Clemens, the Jets’ second-round pick out of Oregon, and you might be inclined to jump out of your shoes if you’re a Jets fan.

    “I watched every game of his college career, every throw he made, and based on game performance I had him rated No. 1 amongst the quarterbacks in this draft,” Jaworski said of Clemens in a phone interview with The Post. “I looked at one game and put my evaluation down and then looked at another and another, and as time went on I was blown away.

    “One thing I heard about the guy is that he’s only 6-15/8. To that my next question was, ‘Did you see the guy play?’ ”

    Clemens yesterday was unveiled in a Jets uniform for the first time, wearing No. 6 as the club began its weekend rookie mini-camp at Hofstra.

    Asked about his aspirations about being the Jets’ starting quarterback, Clemens said, “I’d love to someday, but right now I’ve got a lot of work to do before I can really go out and contribute the way the Jets need to me to.”

    Asked to describe himself as a quarterback, Clemens said, “A team leader sort of guy, a competitor. I try not to talk about me too much.”

    Naysayers are quick to point out that Clemens is only about a half-inch taller than Brooks Bollinger, the third-string QB who became the Jets’ starter last year when Chad Pennington and Jay Fiedler were lost for the season in Week 3.

    “It’s not even close between [Clemens] and Bollinger and I don’t mean to demean Brooks, because he can be a serviceable backup in this league,” Jaworski said. “But Clemens is about 20 pounds heavier than Bollinger, has a much stronger arm, and has really strong legs and can break tackles. He doesn’t go down easily.”

    Clemens was a more prolific passer in college than Bollinger, who was more a threat with his legs than his arm.

    “[Clemens] has a quick release, a strong arm, can make multiple throws, does a great job processing information and finding the open receiver, has the anticipation you need,” Jaworski said. “All of those things were there. The one negative I saw was I didn’t think he was consistent enough with the deep ball.

    “I saw nothing but upside. I had him at No. 1, ahead of [Matt] Leinart, [Jay] Cutler and [Vince] Young and everyone else until I saw the [NFL] Combine tapes and was concerned, because he wasn’t healthy. That put up a little red flag.”

    Clemens, who missed the last several games of the 2005 season with a broken left fibula and wasn’t 100 percent at the Combine, said yesterday that he’s fine, recovered and ready to go.

    “All the intangibles are there,” Jaworski said. “I talked to a number of coaches that worked him out and put him to the chalkboard and they were blown away by him. Seven or eight NFL head coaches said, from the neck up, this guy is best guy in the draft.”

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    He also said that Colin Kaepernick was going to be the best quarterback in NFL history.
     
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    It's tough to imagine a guy who ran out of bounds for a two yard loss or has thrown multiple interceptions right into the defenders chests on screens to be a long term solution at the quarterback but it's also entirely possible that he turns out to be a good player.

    I just don't think pocket awareness can ever really be learned. Quarterbacks either have it or they don't and he never ever knows where the rush is coming from. It leads to bad decisions because he feels the rush even when their isn't a defender near him and as a result he throws into coverage.

    Everyone knows this. Teams blitz him in the first quarter and he feels it regardless if it's there or not.

    That being said he is very good at picking up chunk yardage. 17 yards here, 12 yards there which is why he still has a chance to be a player. He just needs to learn to red defenses better and he won't throw picks on quick outs for touchdowns anymore and he can literally shave off 5 picks a year.
     
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    Beat me to it. For someone who was an NFL starter for nearly a decade he sure is piss poor at evaluating the position.
     
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    Reasons to be optimistic, Year 3. Seeing will be believing.


     
  12. phubbadaman

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    Jaws is the worst.
     
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    I am telling you it is the helmet it covers half his eyes. He gets a new helmet "championship".
     
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    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/06/joe_klecko_rips_geno_smith_says_jets_defense_can_b.html

     
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    His head does look like a light bulb.

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    The only optimism I have in regards to Geno is that he won't be starting after week 3
     
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    I'll go on record and say this. Geno has absolutely sucked so far in his career.

    BUT:
    He has been put in a terrible system fit and surrounded by literally no weapons, with a coaching staff at turmoil with the front office, with zero offensive coaching ability. He was put in a position to fail miserably. I'd say all QBs entering the league under these circumstances would have sucked too as well as veterans outside of the top 5 of QBs.

    I'm heading into this season without putting too much stock into Geno's performance so far. I want to see what he does in a strong system fit and surrounded by weapons. He has NO excuses this year. I also think it's the first time he's been put in a position to not only succeed, but to not outright suck. So let's see what he does. If he fails under these conditions the book is closed on Geno.

    But for QBs particularly rookies, the right environment, weapons and system literally make or break careers.

    Pulling for Geno to prove everyone wrong and think he has a solid shot to do it.
     
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    Amen.
     
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    Geno:

    Start the game. Make a couple of fuirst downs. Get in Red Zone. Gets us TD. (repeat formula for rest of game with no interception)

    Till then (not holding my breath) Fitz is it.
     
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  20. TurkJetFan

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    I'd be more vocal about this, but it's a waste of time. I know the majority of people will auto hate Geno based on what they've seen.
     

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