Statistical Juggernaut: The 2009 Jets vs. The 2000 Ravens

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I don't really sign off on the total comparison, but the article has some interesting stuff in it.

    Statistical Juggernaut: The 2009 Jets vs. The 2000 Ravens

    Monday, 18 January 2010 13:06 Luis DeLoureiro, ClassActSports.com, Statistical Analysis


    Mark Sanchez crashed the 2009 playoff quarterback party.

    So, in what has become a pass oriented league, do the Jets and Mark Sanchez have a snowball?s chance in Indy next weekend?

    Recent history suggests that it?s not impossible to win the Super Bowl with mediocre quarterback play if you have an exceptional (not good?.not great?..exceptional) defense. The 2000 Ravens ? who won the Super Bowl with quarterback Trent Dilfer playing only a supporting role ? have become the recent model for winning with an exceptional defense and not much else. (The 2002 Bucs ? with Brad Johnson ? get honorable mention).

    The Jets led the league in points and yards against this past season, but were they exceptional? How do they compare to the 2000 Ravens?

    Below are the actual numbers for the two teams.

    Defensive Statistics: 2000 Ravens vs. 2009 Jets

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    Somewhat surprisingly, the Jets compare fairly well with the 2000 Ravens.

    Breakdown by Category:

    Passing Defense:

    The 2000 Ravens yielded 2,997 yards passing ? good for eighth in the N.F.L. that year. The Jets yielded a league best 2,459 - almost five hundred fewer yards than the second ranked Buffalo Bills.

    The Jets defense also led the N.F.L. in yards yielded per pass attempt at 5.4 (vs. 5.7 for Baltimore), and, perhaps most impressively, gave up only eight TD passes this season (vs. 11 for the Ravens).

    Advantage - 2009 Jets


    Rushing Defense:

    The 2000 Ravens yielded less than 1000 rushing yards and only five TDs on the ground. Opposing rushers averaged 2.7 yards per carry. Each of these statistics led the 200 season.

    This year?s Jets were eighth in the N.F.L. with a little over 1,500 rushing yards yielded.

    Advantage - 2000 Ravens


    Overall Metrics:

    The 2000 Ravens were number one in points allowed and number two in yards allowed. The Jets were number one in both categories.

    However, sticking with the points allowed metric, the Ravens yielded only 10.3 points per game (50% less than the average defense in 2000) while the Jets gave up 14.8 (almost 30% lower than the 2009 average).

    The metrics appear to wash out. The Ravens were better against the run. However, with the Jets? remaining games against the pass-happy Colts and, if they get to the Super Bowl, the Saints or Vikings, a strong pass defense would appear to be of greater value.

    More nuggets??

    ? The Jets? upset prevented a final four that included the top four players in the M.V.P. voting ? Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees.

    ? Three of the quarterbacks remaining ? all but Sanchez - were 4,000 yard passers this season. There have never been more than two 4,000 yard passers playing in the same conference championship weekend.
    To put this in perspective, consider that, before 1994, there had only been one season (1984) with as many as three 4,000 yard passers in an entire season. The N.F.L. record was crushed this year with ten 4,000 yard passers.

    ? For the second consecutive weekend, the playoffs featured three blowouts and one close game. And, for the second consecutive weekend, the close game was the last game of the weekend.
    The first three playoff games of this weekend were decided by an average of 26 points.

    ? The Cardinals were the lowest rated defense (based on points allowed) to make the playoffs. Staying true to form, they gave up 90 points in two playoff games. Maybe Warner?s potential retirement is not their biggest concern.

    ? The Ravens managed to beat themselves every time they got any momentum. They committed three second half turnovers in Indy territory

    ? Poor Nate Kaeding. First he has had to live his life as my paperboy?s identical twin ? and now he misses three field goals in a play-off game.

    ? For the second year in a row, a rookie quarterback has led his team to the A.F.C. Championship.

    ? Given Darrelle Revis? performance in the playoffs, Charles Woodson is probably praying that Kanye West is not presenting the Defensive Player of the Year award.

    ? Do you think the Colts will regret giving the Jets life in Week 16? Indy sat their starters in the 3rd quarter of that game ? sacrificing a potential perfect season. The Jets haven?t looked back since. Wouldn?t it be the ultimate karma if they kept steamrolling right through this game?
     
  2. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    then we shouldn't have a problem winning the super bowl.
     
  3. Theo Huxtable

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    Obviously.
    All we need now is to get Jermaine Lewis to come out of retirement.
     
  4. dcm1602

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    Id bet the Ravens defense had a helluva lot more turnovers than the jets did this year.

    And they had a beastly defensive line.

    Give us 2-3 years and I think our defense will look a lot more like theirs
     
  5. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    sounds like a plan.
     
  6. Theo Huxtable

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    Ya...Baltimore had 42. and a +23 turnover ratio.
    We have 30 something...but only a +1 turnover ratio I think.
     
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    Well the ratio isnt really a concern since Sanchez is still learning.

    Im amazed how close the turnovers were though.

    I remember that ravens defense going absolutely nuts that year, scoring points and everything.
     
  8. Theo Huxtable

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    I had to edit it. we're almost 10 behind. sorry.
     
  9. WhiteShoeWillis

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    All without our dominant NT and in the first year of a new scheme.
     
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    The defensive points allowed stat includes points the offense allowed.

    Add in the fact that 2009 yielded the most 4,000+ yard passers in history to the comparison of pass defenses.
     
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    with Big jenks maybe a new DE we would have a monsterous D
     
  12. Hemi

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    Where are all these new posters coming from? Some of these names appear to be before my time, yet I just see them here now?
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Sanchez>Dilfer
     
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    The fact that the nfl has become so much more of a passing league makes our passing stats all that much more impressive, and important.
    But I also remember that baltimore defense not only producing an obscene number of turnovers, but scoring after those turnovers.
    So we are close to those guys, but need another year or two before we can surpass them.
     
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    Until we win the Super Bowl I don't think anyone will take comparisons like these seriously.

    If the Colts had a running game, I'd be worried. Good thing they don't.
     
  17. Theo Huxtable

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    I disappeared for a year or two because I had to focus on school more than a forum, so I just lurked. Now that I got in to school. I have a too much free time. If I'm who yer talkin about.
     
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    You mean you're not trying to put your post count on your epitaph? You obviously didn't go to school for internets. LOL!1!!11!!WTF!!11!!1FDIC!1!!!ASPCA!!1!
     
  19. Br4d

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    The Jets 2009 defense is not in the same class as the Ravens 2000 defense, then again only a small handful of defenses are.

    The Ravens gave up 3 points to the Broncos (#2 in the NFL with 485 points scored during regular season) in the wildcard round. Then they gave up 10 points to the Titans in the divisional round (#13, 346 points). They gave up 3 points to the Raiders (#3, 479 points) in the AFC Championship game.

    6 points allowed to 2 teams that combined for 964 points in the regular season. Unbelievable performance that puts them safely out of comparison range with any defense since then.
     
  20. tpjets62

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    Yeah, regardless of what the #'s say, when it was playoff time, that defense was lights out. I wonder if Dilfer broke a sweat during those games??:breakdance:
     

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