Talking with HC Robert Saleh

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  1. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    Bobby is one cool dude and Rich is just the best man.
     
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  3. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Even a piece of dryer lint would be a step up from Adam Gase, but I find it hard not to be pumped about this guy. The built in bright side and given is that it certainly can't get WORSE. I don't mean 3-13, yay! improvement!, either. I can already feel a nebulous culture change. GO JETS!
     
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  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Saleh looks really good.

    Herm looked like a breath of fresh air after Darth Parcells (no disrespect intended). Mangini looked like a brash young technocrat who understood the nuances of offense and defense compared to Herm's folksiness and charm. Rex looked like a breath of fresh air after Mangini's heavily controlling style of coaching. Bowles looked like a serious student of defense in depth after Rex's take no prisoners blitzing style. Gase looked like, well it's hard to say because the opening presser was such a disaster.

    Now Saleh looks like a breath of fresh air again.

    Life is a wheel and it keeps rolling over the Jets.

    The one thing that will define the Jets of the first quarter of the 21st century after all is said and done is that they were addicted to marketing above all else. They'd rather market and lose than keep a low profile (like most good NFL clubs) and win.
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Wow, you must love supporting the Jets, to keep on keeping on, no matter how many times they keep butt fucking you and your own hopes and schemes of what is right and wrong for this franchise.

    Maybe, just maybe, they will finally get it right and put you out of your misery, well all of our misery tbh.
     
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    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    It is true that they continue to do the opposite of what they did last, but this doesn't mean:

    -That Saleh won't be great
    -That they can't have success

    Have to hope as fans that they can put it all together.
     
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  7. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    He also comes across as very approachable, but mostly business. This isn't something that anyone can control (if you're born lucky enough), but the fact that he has a commanding voice with a cool lilt and timbre to it is a huge plus IMO. The only way that I can explain what I mean by that is take to take James Earl Jones or William Marshall, for example. I'm sure in their private lives just hanging out with friends and talking meaningless nonsense people just tend to stop and listen. RIP, 'Blacula' (and although I live for that chit, he was so much more than that), btw.
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    it’s always like this....it’s a pendulum. Teams who do poorly with a disciplinarian type guy tend to go the other way and hire a players “let’s make football fun again...it’s a game after all!” Type coach. Then when that goes sour after a few years they tend to go get a disciplinarian “we need accountability and attention to detail” type coach.

    it was that way for us from Parcells to Herm then to Mancini then to Rex then to Bowles.

    agree that Gase was a bad hire from the beginning....never understood why we had to rush to hire him the day he was fired for sucking from a division rival. Forget the bad W-L record....I would have stayed away even if only for the rumors about how he didn’t get along with so many players. He did not build relationships. And of course, our team showed very little life under him....not much excitement. I’ll give him credit for the team not disintegrating and pointing fingers when we were 0 for the season until that damn Rams game...many teams would have turned on each other but we didn’t. So fair is fair...he deserves some credit for keeping the team together. But outside of that, his decisions were just awful...Bell, Gore, playcalling, not owning the entire team....that last one just smacks of Johnson and Mac putting together a forced marriage for HC and DC...but still.

    so yeah, here we go yet again with a first time HC...Herm, Mangini, Rex, Bowles, etc. hasn’t worked out great for us, but here’s hoping Saleh breaks that trend
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Not lost in all of this is the revelation that Robert Saleh and his group had breakfast with John Lynch and his group the morning that Lynch traded up to 3 overall.
     
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    feel the nebulae
    "Although denser than the space surrounding them, most nebulae are far less dense than any vacuum created on Earth – a nebular cloud the size of the Earth would have a total mass of only a few kilograms."
     
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    More Than Blacula

    good band name
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Haha, that reminds me in a a domino effect kind of way of that famous quote by mykazjet in the old gin joint that I sported in my signature for years: "I think the sky is fallen and the bottem falls out unless something moraculas happens". Yes, I still remember it word for word because I remember everything. He was such a good sport about it, and a few of us went to town with it. I remember you came up with 'The Castle of Dr. Moraculas!' That was close to 15 years ago if you can believe that. I would bring it back if he posted here.
     
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    Saleh seems like a good guy, but he comes from the D side. He's Rex Ryan part deux. We're about to have an above avg defense that keeps us in games. The Jets will become known for this.

    Offense? We will only be as good as whatever OC happens to be in charge. Any good OC's will move on to coach their own team. Rinse/Repeat. The only constant on that side of the ball will be Zack Wilson and the players Joe Douglas drafts to surround him with. Stocking the oline is a great start, as that's the basis of ANY good offense, regardless of OC.
     
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    I hear you but. A good HC regardless of background knows the importance of a good offense, and knows how to select a top OC. Bruce Arian couldn’t win shit with TB until he finally found himself a QB and a DC that crushed the most powerful offense in the NFL. BB won more SBs than anyone by a wide margin and developed OCs that failed as HC so I’m sorry but not buying into the offensive minded HC premise as the preferred option. Sorry guys not ever again after Gase, worst of all time.
     
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    The Jets lost a *huge* amount of value when the 49ers decided to trade a *huge* amount of value for the #3 instead of the #2.

    If Saleh and his folks told the 49ers what the Jets were doing at #2 the odds are pretty good they got themselves fired a few years down the road. Live and learn I guess.
     
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    Sorry @LAJet But we aren't the Patriots and Saleh isn't Andy Reid.

    Jets 2021 will become a spitting image of Jets circa '09, in a very good way. Just swap out Rex for Saleh and Nacho for Zach. We were the road team no one wanted to play. Rex's famous "3 home teams advance and the NY FUCKING JETS!!!".That's what I see coming. Slightly better play from our D would have brought us 2 rings, back to back. Our D was older and not great but Rex's crazy D-formations kept any offense off guard. The Band Of Lunatics. 11 D-players just milling about the LOS denying any opposing QB or OC what was coming. And it came. This, I believe, is some of the magic Saleh will bring to our Defense.
     
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    I also have similar expectations from Saleh, but the element I can’t wait to see is how our new OC begins to transform our offense. We do have some real young talent to develop.
     
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    I hope, and suspect, with Saleh we see less injuries.

    They shouldn't be something that vary based on the staff but they always do. Yeah, maybe Saleh's group will do a better job getting them in shape but also I suspect some of the ailments of the last couple years were psychological in nature.
     
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    Excellent post.

    It's not like there were a bunch of successful previous NFL HCs sitting around waiting to be hired, either. The Jets were interested in Matt Campbell, but their interest cooled quickly when he told the Lions he wanted over $68 million for 8 years when he presently is only making $4 million at Iowa St. Also, when something wasn't working, why would one double down on it (fire one disciplinarian coach and hire another)? There is also no indication that JD intentionally went the opposite from Gase. This was JD's first-ever hire, and he made the hire, not the Johnsons or "the Jets," so to claim what Br4d did at the end of his post was ridiculous. I swear, I wish some of our posters would find another team to root for. Their cynicism, negativity, and irrationality is over the top.
     
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    What are teams supposed to do when they're firing a HC because he didn't work out, double down and hire someone exactly like him? Yeah, that would be a real recipe for success.

    Since Saleh looks really good to you, why not enjoy it and see how far it goes? If he fails, there will be plenty of time to trash him and the Jets later. Why not get a little pleasure or at least have the absence of pain for a while?

    The bold sentences at the end of your post are way off base. I couldn't possibly disagree more. What does keeping a low profile have to do with anything? In the NY-NJ media market, it's going to be news when the Jets or Giants are firing/hiring a new HC. It's not like JD went out looking for publicity and soliciting feedback. To say that they'd rather market and lose is equally wrong. No one spends hundreds of millions to buy a professional team and wants to see them lose or intentionally takes steps so that they will lose. Even if that were true, then why did they hire Joe Douglas? Why did they let him make the new HC hire? JD did keep things quiet about who they were going to draft. There was no mystery with whom the Jaguars were going to take, so all the interest and hype was about who the Jets were going to take at #2. The Johnsons and JD didn't ask for that. I'm certain that JD would have rather it remained a mystery, but he can't prevent media sources from talking to everyone involved. Those bold statements have no basis in fact, and they are irrational.
     

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