Agree. As I said on another thread, we are very limited in options. If they trot Zach out there, he better execute properly to a well thought out game plan. He will be in a hostile environment in his own house. I can also see a situation where we back up White on some specific option plays and bring in Strev, like they did with Marriota and McCoy.
Flacco deserves to be cut after his performance this week. He is not the future anyway. Whether we use Zach or sign some bum off the street we need a change at QB2.
You making it seem like White or Minshew is gonna cost a ton? Wilson is still on a rookie deal so Why not? we should be able to get both on one year deals. And making room in the cap won’t be hard. Mosley is due for a restructure and Tomlinson if not cut.
Debating other posters aside, still want him to succeed. His issues seem very fixable, unless he is just that inaccurate and never had a chance. I still think he may have lost the locker room with his comments and it may take more than then improving his game to fix that.
I want him to bring us a SB but we have better options right now that are more likely to get us there and I'm pretty sure the CS agrees. There's a lot of evidence that ZW does not understand the playbook at a level necessary to succeed. That is not fixable imo--its a cognitive thing (he's not stupid) and not sure what the issue is (lack of study?) but that he arrived at such a state is inexcusable and its ridiculous to put him in a game until he gets it. Evidence demonstrates that this is true for passing patterns and play calling (2-yard QB sneak?) Hardly ever in my observations has someone who has bad footwork learn better in the nfl after 20 months of trying with no success. Could happen. Stepping up in the pocket maybe can be fixed/learned. But he doesn't naturally do it. As I believe NC alluded to several times, he's a run around Favre type and playing in the pocket is not his game. He's a little bitch so he gets no benefit of the doubt imo except from fan-boy worshippers who care nothing about actual performance data. He also gets the benefit from those who recommended him as ready for the NFL either by scouting or drafting or commentary analysis since they look incompetent at this point.
If MW continues to play as he is, its 10mm/year IMO. Zach gets 10MM too. maybe Minshew gets 5MM. That's 25 million in QB dedication and that's doable imo. I don't like 1-year deal for MW unless we get an option for additional years. I'd personally take a chance on a 3-yr. I would want him to bulk up a bit tho in offseason so maybe add incentives for that.
I have a feeling Zach is done with the Jets. Since I believe that to be the case, I am fine with him being deactivated. What I do think we have just learned, is that Flacco is not a legitimate option. He may be a worse QB than Zach. Or at the very least, he is so unbelievably limited behind mediocre offensive line play. If the Jets want to make Zach the backup QB, I'd fully understand that. If they think Zach is done and want Shrev to backup, I'm fine with that as well. Flacco cannot be an option though.
We just paid Ryan Fitzpatrick 12m to play one year for us- like 6 years ago. You’re nuts if you think White or any vet is signing for that money today. MW is gonna get starting money if he plays out as well as he has thus far. If he wins and gets us in the playoffs he’s gonna get a huge offer with incentives. My point is we can’t sign MW unless we’re committing to the idea that he’s going to be our starter for the next few years. Considering the superstars are getting 30m+ a year guaranteed, MW is probably going to be offered something like 3yrs 60m with incentives on top.
After ZW came in Monday morning and apologized to the team in person, perhaps Saleh shoulda kept ZW in for the Bears game.....a true 'get right' game for a young, struggling QB. Especially if Saleh/Douglas see ZW as our QB going forward, after he 'gets right'. On the other hand, if Saleh's 'Zack will play again this year, that's my plan' was pure bunk and they are actually done with him, then turning to MfW was the correct call.
There should be some apprehensive that White might not be able to get through the upcoming game. Maybe all it will take is one hit to the midsection. Flacco shouldn’t be qb# 2. He can’t move. If it isn’t Zach than it must be something internal going on as to why not. Though, I mean he can’t have lost the locker room so much so that he can’t even be QB #2…right?
If they suit Flacco instead it tells me they don’t want to win. He should be inactive and gone at yer end. People blame JD for forcing him as back up and I call that BS. He wasn’t even brought back by JD until Zach went down on pre season, and some people were bitching why he wasn’t. Flacco was also inactive on Zach’s last game so I think is some BS coaching move or mind game if he is still the back up. God help us.
Well whatever it is it's not what their public words have said. And it would be very troubling if the QBs behind MW are: 1. A player who may have been already written off. 2. A player who is clearly washed up and disinterested. 3. A player who is the textbook definition of journeyman. Very troubling.
Not that I think Flacco should be the backup, or ever see the field again, but even when he was playing at his highest level in Baltimore he had people saying he was "disinterested" It is his personality, he's not a rah rah guy He's just getting too old, his lack of mobility was a weakness in his career and its heightened by the fact that he's older and everyone else is faster. I dont think he is disinterested in a backup role
I think you're diminishing Strev but I agree that it'll most likely be Z as the backup this week with Flacco as the emergency.
I didn't mean to diminish Streveler, and certainly prefer him to Flacco, but he's a journeyman unless he somehow pulls a "Kurt Warner".
