what about trading up using our second first

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  1. drownedjetsfan

    drownedjetsfan New Member

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    out of curiosity how far do you think we could move up using our second first round pick and our second round pick ???
     
  2. drownedjetsfan

    drownedjetsfan New Member

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    keeping our 4th overall
     
  3. kinghenry89

    kinghenry89 New Member

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    We could get into the mid first round. It's not really worth it though--we can get two players of more or less equal quality where we are.
     
  4. UncleTomNYJ

    UncleTomNYJ Active Member

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    You pretty much summed it up
     
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    Denver traded the #29, a third-round selection in 2006 (#93) and a fourth-rounder in 2007 for the 15th overall.

    So we should be able to trade up to maybe the 12th (KFFL reported Cleveland willing to trade down to a spot where they could select Bobby Carpenter today) in exchange for the #29, and possibly just one of our third rounders (#71). If thats all it took, I would do it. At #4 and #12 we would have a shot at any combination from the following two groups:

    #4: D'Brickshaw, Mario, Leinart, Vernon Davis, AJ Hawk
    #12: Vince Young, Jay Cutler, Haloti Ngata, Winston Justice, Michael Huff, Manny Lawson, Kamerion Wimbley...

    and we still have the #35 and #97 on day one, 2 4th rounders, 1 5th rounder and 2 7th rounders.

    It could be worth it, IF we got the LT we want and the QB of the future we want.
     
  6. UncleTomNYJ

    UncleTomNYJ Active Member

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    Now that sounds pretty good. but in all honesty would cleveland really fall that far in the draft just for 29 and 1 of our 3rds??????
     
  7. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Please, no trading up. I cringe every time someone suggests it.
     
  8. McCluneNYJ

    McCluneNYJ Active Member

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    This is at least more of a thoughtful alternative to trading up.

    Not trading up to #1 or #2, but moving up from #29, which I think makes sense, if our guy is there.

    Something that should be considered if we don't take D'Brick, is trading up for Justice, who won't last past Philly at #14.

    Another to consider if we really like Carpenter, we might have to move in front of the Patriots, and surely the Giants if we really covet him.
     
  9. phatnols

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    I dont see us trading the #4 also. History shows bad things happen to the Jets when they trade 2 1sts to move up. But, I also dont see us trading our #2 +our 1st rnd pick. It might be too much to move down for a team. I dont see any 10-15 teams wanting to trade down. Maybe the Cards. Then agian you can never say never.
    But teams usually grade players in tiers. Almost everyone agrees there are 7 "elite" players in this draft. If the FO thinks there are 20 "true" 1st rnders then I can see them trading the 29th and our 3rd to move up to about 18-21. We have 5 1st day picks, so I can see why we have alot of trade rumors, but if anything I would try to stay put until the last minute.
     
  10. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    #29 and #35 can get us to #12 or #13, perfect to sign DeAngelo Williams.
     
  11. phatnols

    phatnols Member

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    Is De Angelo your 1st ranked player or something? this deangelo mania out of you is crazy.
     
  12. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    We need a back, curtis ain't getting any younger. We ain't gettin bush, so go after the next best thing and DeAngelo is gonna be a huge success in the nfl.
     
  13. phatnols

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    not saying Deangelo will be sucessful or not. But comeon. He isnt that good
    only 14 out of the 32 teams have 1st rnd picks as starting RB's thats like 1 or 2 a yr. But how many start for 5 yrs?
    So you say Bush is a definite... Is DeAngelo a definite for premise 1 I guess... but for premise 2 I dont think so... I can name 25 players better than him in this draft(will they be better or worse?) but I dont think deaneglo will be special. Not many do watch deangelo wont be a top 15 pick.

    just stop typing his name who cares about him. there are other players in this draft. there are players who will be drafted in rnd 5 where we will go "we should have drafted him Tanny stinks"
     
  14. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    I'm aware and I actually don't really expect him to be drafted. I really just want to make sure we get a first round back (DeAngelo, Maroney, etc.) but DeAngelo is the best back of the bunch below bush.
     
  15. phatnols

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    that is not a great way to go by the draft, you never draft by position.... especially when 2 of them make more than 1 mil a yr. if it comes down to position then maybe deangelo but there are 22 other postions I dont think we will get rb. cause I think the FO values RB better than that. rememebr where they got their rb's from......
     

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