A QB with a lot of promise and a boat load of potential who has yet to lead his team to the playoffs because they had a poor defense and a QB in Cutler who has a career losing record after two + years as a starter. He's now a Bear and playing in a tough Chicago city with fans who expect mental toughness...I'm not sure Chicago is the city for Cutler, I think Tampa would have been the BEST place for Jay...A laid back city and the perfect conditions for a deep ball QB because the windy city can be a mother F'er I'm sorry, I just had to say that one last time, lol and I just feel that if Cutler were REALLY a franchise QB...He could have picked up the slack of that Denver Defense and put up 35+ points per game but thats not what he did every Sunday, he didnt always out score the opposing QB when the D had let downs. Yeah his record was GREAT when the Broncos kept teams under 21 points but you know what? I would expect a starting QB to put up more than 21 points when the D is playing solid.
Please stop. You were doing so well tonight. No franchise QB...ever...has had to carry his team to a winning record with a defense giving up 400+ points, except for the Greatest Show On Turf in St. Louis (10 - 6 in 2000). Jay Cutler had Brandon Marshall, but he wasn't dealing with Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, and Marshall Faulk. In fact, the only season Peyton Manning's Colts gave up that many points, they finished 6 - 10. And that was his 4th year in the league. In fact, no one else even got to 8 - 8 besides this year's Brees led Saints. The fact he couldn't hit a winning record in the past two seasons with that defense means nothing.
I'm not saying it's not important. It would be FANTASTIC to have a franchise QB. What I think is that the game has evolved through the years and in modern football having a 5 star QB is less important than it would have been say 10 or 15 years ago. Especially if you want to dominate through defense and running game. Of course if you have Lary Fitzgerald and Boldin and Breaston you are a moron if you don't invest in a good QB, but with our unproven WR (with all due respect) now is not the time to break the bank on a QB like Cutler. Plus these is not just my thought, R Ryan sai a 1000 times he wants a QB that MANAGES the game. It's like paying Einstein to give your son physics lessons... he'd be great but a little bit wasted for the money you have to give him, don't you think?
Well, in the last 20 years there have only been two teals to win the superbowl without a franchise QB (probably more but 20 was far enough to look). Baltimore and Tampa Bay and they probably had the two best defenses of the last 30 or 40 years when they did. To say you can win anything without a franchise QB is just a joke but then most of the people around here have no clue what it is to win anyway.
Simple 2 first round picks, a 3rd round pick, and a player was way to much, and the people that say we shouldve pulled the trigger for this trade, have no knowledge of football.
question is, how many more draft picks are the jets going to use to get that franchise qb? how many have the jets used in the past 40 years? how many franchise qb's did we end up with? 0 is how many!! #1 draft pick, last year, how has that worked out. how many other past #1's bombed. now look at the giants and what they gave up to get their qb. did it tank that team for years to come. sure, with a superbowl title. i'd have given up more if that's what it took to get cutler. bears just became a serious contender!!
I agree, the Bears put all their cards on the table here, no first rounder until 2011. They are suspect at the skill positions, letting Berrian go was a mistake, heck, letting Thomas Jones go is a mistake. This isn't like it is the final piece of the puzzle, they need more. Now they have signed Orlando Pace to play LT. Who knows if he can even last a whole season at this point. This is Lovie Smith's last stand.
i have a $100 that says they win the nfc north! more if you want to bet more... i'll put my money where my mouth is on this one....
Who cares? The Broncos weren't dealing with us, as has been reported. Why do you care how he does if we didn't have a realistic chance of getting him? Oh, that's right. The idiots on the board refuse to belief a failure to grab whomever we please comes down to front office ineptitude, and nothing more.
I hope the Jets FO doesn't catch a lot of flak for not making this deal. For starters, Denver had no desire to trade Cutler to us. Also, Chicago paid a LOT for this guy...they better hope he's the real deal
I guess with that little tidbit you just posted I can definitely expect a column from Gary Myers this weekend about how the Jets dropped the ball again. How do these mental midgets have jobs?
Just about everyone understands that Denver wouldn't be trading Cutler to an AFC team. I thought he was going to Tampa the whole time only because Tampa tried so hard last year on getting Favre. If anything, Jets are in the clear, it's the Bears who will catch the flak because they are now an offensive team with NO LT or RT which ='s a horrid O-Line, they have two # 3 WR's playing the #1 and 2 positions and they will have no run game thanks to lack of talent on the O-Line. Denver has a winning QB in Orton...Say what you want about Orton, but the man wins games, has a career winning % and the Broncos ALSO have a chance to stack that Defense like crazy over the next two years. Chicago got KILLED in this draft
Didn't want to start another thread, but look at this from today's Chicago Sun Times. Anyone else very glad that Mangini isn't our coach anymore? "NFL sources said the Bears were among the most aggressive teams in pursuit of Cutler, but they were hardly alone. Washington, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Cleveland and the New York Jets all tried to seal a deal. The Browns might have won the sweepstakes had Cutler's agent, Bus Cook, not also represented Brett Favre. The longtime Packers star didn't mesh last year with Jets coach Eric Mangini, who was fired and landed in Cleveland. Mangini reportedly was willing to give up Brady Quinn in a deal for Cutler. Quinn, who played for former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis at Notre Dame, might have been a good fit in McDaniels' system. But Cook made it clear when talks began that Cutler wanted no part of Mangini, and fears that he wouldn't report to the Browns shut down that deal."
