2020 Retain thread

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  1. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I’d expect beachum to be resigned. No way we go into the draft without a viable left tackle. Which beachum is.
    As to the rest.
    Pool
    Lewis
    DT
    Jenkins should all return.
    Griffin is having a very nice year but gase doesn’t run a lot of 21 personnel so not sure they will want to pay him what some other clubs may want to give him after a good season.
    powell and Montgomery are both gone. Adams is the rb2 next year. If they didn’t have long term plans for him they would have let him get poached off the PS.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You seem like you were definitely a big David Clowney guy too, weren't you?
     
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  3. AJT73

    AJT73 Well-Known Member

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    I agree the offensive line has been awful. No way there are 8 new linemen this year. Looking at the players retaining these four makes the most sense. That leaves four or five new linemen.

    1. Harrison: Signed for next year. Has played well when given the opportunity. Good backup piece.
    2. Beachum: When healthy our best linemen. If he is willing to compete for the RT or LT position and mentor younger players he'd be a great person to keep.
    3. Compton: Played well yesterday. Clearly not a full time starter but a year in the program. Played decently. Be nice to resign him and compete for a spot next year.
    4. Lewis: Second best linemen. Has a nasty streak. Great depth play. Better than Compton. Has held his own when starting. Too many penalties do hurt. Same as Compton worth resigning and having him compete for a spot next year.

    I think Harrison and Lewis will be back. Beachum I think goes elsewhere and Compton not sure what he decides. 4-6 new olinemen is what I expect next year. These are the four that should be offered a contract. No starting guarenteed but they are helpful pieces. Not giving much love just looking at depth. It'd be crazy if it was 8 new bodies there. 5 new starters could be.
     
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  4. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    yup...if we draft an LT first round there is no way Beachum is back. No way Winters is back. either Lewis or Compton prolly end up elsewhere as well
     
  5. tooooon

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    This thread should be re-named “Jets O-line Stinks But All Should be Brought Back Because They Beat 2 Bad Teams”
     
  6. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    No love from me, or anyone else that I can see. I don't know why some of you guys jump to an extreme.

    Like you, I don't think replacing all 5 starters, much less depth too, is feasible this offseason. I think we will probably look to keep only one or at most two starters, Beacham and Lewis, and they will be kept only because it isn't feasible to replace 5 starters and depth. If Compton can be replaced with someone better, great, but I think Lewis and he are better OG depth than we've had in a while. Beacham, is better, but plays a more important position. I'd like to keep him as LT depth or insurance in case the rookie isn't ready day one, but he may not be willing. Again, if they can find someone younger and cheaper for depth/insurance, great, I'll have no problems with replacing him. There is limited cap space to sign FAs, and the Jets will have quite a few FAs again during the offseason. I just think it will be easier to keep Harrison and Compton as depth, and Beacham and Lewis as starters for one more season. As it is, between FA and the draft they'll have to add at least 3, if not 4 new starters to the OL, and that's a tall order. We may have no choice but to keep Beacham and Lewis as starters for one more season. They could then have the rookie LT they draft play RT, the C they draft start, and the FA OG they sign start to round out the starting 5. In that scenario, I have no idea who would be the OT depth.
     
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  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    no way Beachum is back. he's making a lot of money folks.

    Beachum, Winters, Kalil, and Shell will all be gone after the year. The only returning starter will be Alex Lewis and possibly Tom Compton if he plays well down the stretch. Douglas will focus on tackles.... plural.....in free agency and draft
     
  8. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    We have to decide on beachum before the draft though.
     
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  9. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I've also found no evidence of him playing right tackle either so there's no way you can kick him over there if you get a franchise LT in the draft. Probably because he's not a very sturdy run blocker.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    There are some pretty decent OTs who could be available in FA during the offseason, but the big question is will any of the decent ones be left, and then how much will they cost and do we have the cap space? Beacham will probably be back, as I agree with FJF we won't go into the draft without a viable LT on the roster, and of the few LTs who might be available, only Whitworth and Castonzo are better than Beacham, and who knows if they'd be willing to sign with the Jets? Probably none of the LTs who are potenital FAs actually hit FA unless they are really bad.

    Potential FA OL in 2020
    Here are the LTs: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/left-tackle/
    Here are the RTs: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/right-tackle/
    Here are the Cs: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/center/
    Here are the OGs: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/guard/

    Depending upon cost, I could see signing a FA OG and/or RT if the right players actually hit FA. I'm not sure that there will be anyone at LT in FA that can help. There are six starting Cs who potentially could be FAs, but I'd be surprised if everyone of them isn't re-signed by their present team unless they have someone better waiting in the wings.
     
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  11. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    Retain Lachlan Edwards and cut everyone else.
     
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  12. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    How does anyone think Brian Winters deserves to be on this team?

    I was really excited when we drafted the guy, but he's been a D+ player at best. I'd rather pick a TGG poster at random to play guard than bring this guy back.
     
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  13. HomeoftheJets

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    Winters has always been below average, but I give the guy credit for lasting this long without imploding.
     
  14. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I thought Pittsburgh tried him at rt once, unsuccessfully. You bring him back on a deal that you can get out of in a year if he’ll go for it. If you can draft a lt that can step right in great , if not, it’s easier to do worst than beachum than better. Plus he’s a good locker room guy and represents the team well in the community.
     
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  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I'd try to bring him back. Tackles do better in their first year on the right side anyways. It's no secret that our line miraculously was ten times better when he was healthy.
     
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  16. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I think we need to try to upgrade the interior line in free agency, at least c and rg, come out of the draft with a lt of the future who maybe pushes edoga at rt his first year and a challenger for Lewis/Compton at lg
     
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    agree with all save Miles
     
  18. mrjet80

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    I can see a scenario where they bring back Beachum with an easy escape clause. He won't be a hot commodity on the FA market but a decent depth/mentor piece. The other three mentioned are toast....

    The more games the Jets win the harder it will be to find that franchise LT this year with so many other positions of need......
     
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  19. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely on Jenkins and I don't see Lewis going anywhere considering JD traded for him.......guys like Hewitt and Copeland are very valuable. Decent role players/spot starters and won't break the bank.
     
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  20. NCJetsfan

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    I agree. Following are the potential FA Cs. Who would you want to sign?

    Starters in Bold
    Ryan Kalil
    Spencer Long
    Trey Hopkins (28), Bengals
    A.Q. Shipley (34), Cardinals
    Chris Reed (28), Dolphins (not on their depth chart)
    Stefen Wisniewski (31), Chiefs
    Tony Bergstrom (34), Foreskins
    Ben Garland (32), Niners
    James Ferentz (31), Patriots
    Joey Hunt (26), Seattle
    Brett Jones (29), Vikings
    Hroniss Grasu (29), Titans
    Connor McGovern (27), Broncos
    Matt Skura (27), Ravens
    John Halapio (29), Midgets
    Ted Karras (29), Patriots
    Wes Schweitzer (26), Falcons
    Adam Redmond (26), Cowpokes
    Coleman Shelton (25) Faiders (not even on their depth chart)
    Dillon DeBoer (26), Chargers (not even on their depth chart)
     

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