Ideally, I'd try to sign one of these C's(not sure who as I don't know much about them) and draft one. My guess is most of the non starters you listed aren't much better than Harrison.
I haven’t watched enough of other teams to make a very educated decision here but I md say the obvious ravens connection with joe d makes skura the number one target. Assuming of course he actually makes it to free agency.
Oh ok now I see......I haven't watched Seattle much this year. I assume it'll be a hard signing - Hunt that is.
Agreed, good OL usually get tagged or extended by the time FA begins. I'd like to sign a C and draft one to ensure the position has depth going into next season.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing, not only because of the connection, but the Ravens almost always have a very good OL.
That's my guess too. Schweitzer is the 2nd string C for the Falcons and Ferentz is the 2nd string C for the Patriots. Redmond is the 3rd string C of the Cowboys and Grassu is the 3rd string C of the Titans. Bergstrom is a career backup. The most games he has ever started was 8 in 2018. In three of his other 8 seasons in the NFL, he started 3 games each. The rest were 0 or 1 game. Brett Jones is on IR and was the 3rd string C. He was replaced by Dakota Dozier. Wisniewski is the Chiefs' 3rd string C. Joey Hunt has only started 2 games for the Seahawks this season, 2 last season, and only 1 over the two previous seasons. They have two Cs on IR Ethan Pocic and Justin Britt, and Britt has been their starter since 2014. Until this season, he had only missed two games in his career. This is the first season that Karras has started more than 2 games for the Patriots. Shipley has been in the NFL since 2012, first with the Colts for a season, then the Ravens for a season, then back with the Colts for a season, and has been with the Cardinals for the last 4 seasons, starting only since 2016. Hopkins has been the starter for the Bengals since 2017, but he appears to have somewhat of an injury history as he has only started 12 of 13 games in 2017, 9 of 16 games in 2018, but has started all 10 games this season. McGovern has been the starting C for Denver since 2017. Skura has been the starter for the Ravens since 2017. It looks like Skura and McGovern may be the best of the lot, and I'd be surprised if they aren't re-signed or tagged. I think if we can sign a starting-caliber OG and a backup OT in FA we'll have done very well, and we may have to get our starting C and RT (future LT) from the draft.
No. I bolded the starters. Per my response to Herndon fan above, my preferences are Skura and then McGovern in terms of age and starting experience. The Ravens usually have a very good OL, while the Broncos haven't had such a great OL. I imagine the Ravens will re-sign or tag Skura, but even if they don't, I don't know if Douglas would try to sign Skura away from the Ravens.
Harrison will still be under contract, and I imagine that he will be the backup again next season, unless the Jets are unable to sign a starting-caliber C in FA, and/or don't get to draft one until the 3rd or 4th round and that guy isn't ready to start right away.
I don't know if these players are better suited for a zone blocking or man blocking scheme, but these appear to be the best potential FA OGs. Potential FA OGs Starters Brandon Scherff (28), Deadskins making $5,303,910 this year [Edit: Added] Joe Thuney (27), NE making $803,357 this year Xavier Su'a-Filo (29), Dallas making $822,500 this year Graham Glasgow (28), Detroit making $759,480 this year Michael Schofield (29), Chargers making $2.5 million this year Andrus Peat (26), Saints making $2,848,374 this year Quinton Spain (29), Bills making $2,050,000 this year Kevin Pamphile (29), Titans making $1.6 million this year Austin Blythe (28), Rams making $600,497 this year Backup/Potential Starter Halapoulivaati Vaitai (27), Eagles making $641,281 this year * Spotrac has him listed as an OG, his NFL profile lists him as a RT; Eagles' depth chart lists his as both the backup RT and RG BJ Finney (28), Steelers making $3,095,000 this year (backup) Evan Boehm (27), Dolphins making $2,025,000 this year (backup) * Spotrac has him listed as an OG, his NFL profile lists him as a C; Dolphin's depth chart has him as the starting RG Tyler Shatley (29), Jaguars making $1,005,000 this year (backup) * Spotrac has him listed as an OG, his NFL profile lists him as a C; the Jaguars' depth chart lists him as the backup C Joe Haeg (27), Colts making $645,603 this year (backup) * Spotrac has him listed as an OG, his NFL profile lists him as an OT; the Colts depth chart lists him as the backup LG and RG Jermaine Eluemunor (25), Patriots making $645,000 this year Trenton Scott (26), Chargers making $525,000 this year * Spotrac has him listed as an OG, his NFL profile lists him as an OT; Chargers' depth chart has him as the backup LT Daniel Brunskill (25), Niners making $495,000 this year * Spotrac has him listed as an OG, his NFL profile lists him as an OT; 2nd string LG on Niners depth chart
I notice you didn’t list Brandon Scherff from the Skins - he’s supposedly one of the best FA guards ( although he didn’t look like it Sunday ). My preference would be Peat but i doubt the Saints let him walk.
Thuney is a quality player but he gets the post-Patriots player asterisk. Andrus Peat is someone we haven't talked a lot about but he's been a good player. He's just been playing next to an All-Pro left tackle and/or right tackle his whole career and a really good center (Max Unger prior to this year) so it's tough to tell. I've heard nothing but bad things about Schofield from a Broncos fan friend of mine, but that's when they were trying to play him at tackle. Vaitai starts right now at left guard to my knowledge. Glasgow is a guy to look at. He has a 70 PFF focus rating and I believe was amongst the top in his position group in the preseason rankings. Trent Scott is horrible. Basically anyone associated with the Chargers offensive line is a no go for me.
Thanks for your response. If I'm not mistaken Glasgow was a FA either this past offseason or the one before and AFAIK, Mac made no attempt to try to sign him. Quinton Spain was a starter for the Titans for several years, then was signed by the Bills as a FA this past season. If you'll recall, the Bills brought in a lot of FA OL, so there must have been pretty good competition for the starting spots and Spain is the starting LG. Kevin Pamphile started for several years for the Titans, was a FA and re-signed by the Titans and is now the backup RG. Regarding Schofield, I remember a few years ago when I was posting on another Jets fan site and Schofield was a FA, that a number of the posters there really liked him and wanted the Jets to sign him, but I don't follow PFF and their ratings, so I don't know how good/bad he might be. As for the Chargers, I'll take your word for it. I thought they had a good OL just 3-4 years ago, but I could be mistaken, or things could have changed. The bottom line is at least there are potentially some pretty good options at OG for the Jets if these players make it to FA. I don't know much about BJ Finney of the Steelers. Spotrac lists him as an OG, but he is the Steelers' backup C behind Maurkice Pouncey. He is in his 4th season with the Steelers, has appeared in 53 games, but only started 10. Interestingly, the Steelers are paying him over $3 million a season, which is more than a number of other starting OGs in the NFL. He may be a consideration for us at C and OG.
I didn't mention Scherff for a couple of reasons. One, I don't follow other teams, but know the Redskins are pretty bad, and thought I had read somewhere that he has been a disappointment, and two, that clip of the Redskins' sideline where Haskins was trying to get his OL working together with him, and all the Redskins' OL looked disinterested. I see in his NFL profile that he is considered one of the best OGs in the NFL, so guess he definitely belongs on the list. That said, he won't be cheap, and I'm not sure the Jets can afford him since they need to add players at OT, C, CB, WR, edge, and maybe RB (if Montgomery and Powell aren't back) and TE if Griffin won't be back.
Scherff should be the top priority this offseason if the Skins don’t tag him. The Skins have no one else to tag so I’m assuming they will but if not Jets need to be aggressive for him. After that I could see Joe D trying to sign a bunch of diamond in the rough types that he’s familiar with. Vaitai from the Eagles makes a ton of sense and would be an upgrade at either G or T.
I wouldn't trade top end draft capital but I do hope they sign him. His Pro Bowl and name recognition tells me that he is a top player at his position. I hope if we sign him, that's true. It's tough to tell without watching lineman directly, especially when they're on bad teams with shitty quarterback play. The running game is directly affected by bad QB play so it's tough to tell and they've also been running 32 year old AP all season. So I'd say sign him to the massive contract he wants; I just hope he's worth it and really is in the top guard category because I can't say for sure if he is/isn't.
Yep. We can use the $7.5 million (plus more) we were going to pay Winters next season and give it to Scherff over the next 2-3 seasons.
