9-7 will be good enough for wildcard in AFC

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  1. FOURTHANDLONG

    FOURTHANDLONG Active Member

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    I think Clemens would have torn that weak Giants Secondary to shreads. It was sickening seeing Chad play on Sunday.
     
  2. jetzIII

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    This is whats the problem wit this team, they will not change anything until it's way to late. We need a spark, just put Clemens in, it should of happen 2 games ago.
     
  3. MSUJet85

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    Our needs on this team won't be addressed in the high 1st round anyways so we may as well just do the best that we can. And at least 9-7 is establishing a little consistancy, it is easier to get better from a mediocre season then a god awful season.
     
  4. EarlytoRise

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    Eli's poor play in the first half tried to hand us the win. 2nd half our D looked like crap. Almost as crappy as our O.
     
  5. FOURTHANDLONG

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    It is easier to stay mediocre than to become great. Mediocre eventually becomes bad. Mediocre can hide flaws like the 2006 Jets did until they play with the big boys and then it shows. It is easy to get better when you have main pieces that need a supporting cast. We have no Defensive line and our O-line needs three linemen. You must understand we are years away not players away. If we get a DT that will be a big part of upgrading the Defense.
     
  6. xxedge72x

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  7. MSUJet85

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    It is easier to get from mediocre to good than it is to get from bad to good. I don't know where you are going with this.
     
  8. FOURTHANDLONG

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    If you get the first pick in the draft and you draft a Franchise Qb or Rb your going to tell me it is easier to get from mediocre to good. Top draft choices have names like Manning, Palmer and Tomlinson. Harder to find a brady in the 5th round my friend. I would rather go with the sure thing.
     
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    There is a reason why the terrible teams for the most part stay terrible, because there is no guarantees that the players on top are going to be good. And as for looking for a Brady, it has nothing to do with this debate since you can easily find great talent in the lower end of the draft. For every 1 superstar you bring up at the top of the draft, I can easily find 2 underachievers, injury-plagued, or just terrible bust that can be found at the top. And likewise I can find great players who were drafted in the lower end of the 1st round.
     
  10. FOURTHANDLONG

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    How did trading our draft away this April work out for us by getting Revis and Harris? We thought getting two good players would propel our Mediocre team. DO you see the result of that thinking with our 1-4 team? I have faith that Mangini can draft talent since he was groomed by Bill-Bill!
     
  11. EarlytoRise

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    We had the advantage in time of posession in the 1st half. We had a missed field goal, interception, 2 punts, field goal and a touchdown and they had a fumble, interception, 3 punts and a touchdown in the first half. Our O and D won the first half. Then our "fresh" D let them start the 2nd half with a scoring drive followed by Leons return for us. No excuse for our D to all of a sudden get trounced on.
     
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    Other than the single Pennington to Brad Smith pass, the offense did NOTHING the first half. The fact that the Giants were equally inept that half doesn't somehow make the Jets offense performance better.

    The first TD given up in the second half was bad, no doubt. But the D didn't really fall to shambles until a little bit later, when they were completely burned out. If Chad had done so much as not throw those interceptions that he did, that alone would've kept the defense off the field a little longer.

    Defense wins championships but good offenses keep defenses from having to win it all by themself. Our defense is not good enough to do it alone. If the Jets offense doesn't show up, then this team will lose.
     
  13. EarlytoRise

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    I agree with you. Of course hindsight is 20/20 but the playcalling was straight crap in the first half.

    1st posession we open with 3 straight passes and a 3 and out.

    2nd posession is where imho the CS screws it up. After we started to get our ground game going with TJ and Leon getting us a 1st down we throw to TJ for 9 and a 2nd and 1 and then a "deep" ball to Cotch incomplete. So on 3rd and 1 after our friggin running backs are getting things done we opt for a trick play to Brad Smith for no gain. That is f'n BS. It seems our CS has no feel for their team.
     
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    I agree with you. That Brad Smith call was total crap. I was screaming at my TV to run Jones.
     
  15. Scruggy

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    Playoffs????? Playoffs!!!! Playoffs?!?!?!?!?!
     
  16. RobA

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    Switch out chad for Kellen Clemens and this team can go on a run. If it wasn't for chad screwing up, we'd be 3-2 right now, JMac holds onto a ball, and we're 4-1. The D and o-line really improved last wk, we can beat teams now if chad wasn't holding us back. 9-7? Not out of reach at all if we pull chad or chad just stops screwing us over with his interceptions. We had a 4-4 start last yr to go 10-6, so lets get to 4-4, which is very possible. 1 game at a time, Philly up first.
     
  17. NYJetsMetsCTHuskies

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    I agree that a 9-7 record would probably be good enough for a wild card spot however what are the chances we go even to 6 wins...
     
  18. GriffDog

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    we aren't doing jack shit this season...and what happened to thomas jones being a good rubbing back...also what happened to my david harris I a couple good plays but what happened?
     
  19. JetsYankeesThrylos

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    thomas jones needs good run blocking to be effective, with holes he can get moving and once he gets moving he runs people over
     
  20. Cellar-door

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    so the jets need to go 8-3, with new england, Dallas and Pittsburgh still on the schedule. So need a sweep of: Philly, Tenn, Cincy, Buffalo, washington, miami, Cleveland and KC. No way I can see the jets beating 3 out of Dallas, Pitt, NE, Wash. Cincy, TENN and Philly. Add in that there are a bunch of team with a head up on the jets. Bal has a tough schedule, but they're 2 games up on the Jets. Jacksonville is 2.5 games up and has a medium schedule, Tenn has about as tough a schedule as the jets, but 2.5 games in hand. Houston is 2 games up, Plus san Diego and Denver both a game up. that's an awful lot of teams to pass.
    Added to that, the jets can lose to anyone, they've been that bad
     

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