I get what you're saying but are these "Rex" guys or were they the BPAs that Idzik could either bring in or keep for the team? Maybe I am just reading too much into the departure of Cro, but Rex wasn't exactly given a major show of support either. So my take is that those guys last year were simply the first building blocks for the roster and Idzik didn't have enough time and assets to fill out the roster as he'd have liked. Did Rex have a say in these decisions? I honestly don't know. The release of Cro is an understandable salary cap move, but not bringing him back feels like a major indication that Idzik is taking the reigns on talent selection away from Rex. Mind you, I'm not saying the FO isn't giving him the pieces necessary to win. I'm just saying that I think the FO is taking a much larger, if not total, share of the decision making process away from Rex. To use BP's old phrase, I wonder if Rex gets to choose the groceries much any longer....
If the jets have a handshake deal with Alterraun Verner (which has been suggested), who is a a young probowl CB, do you think Rex would rather have a 30 year old CB coming off one of his worst years over Verner? If the jets have a deal with Verner, I'm sure Rex would be OK with that over keeping Cro.
Yea to me its pay 9 million for a guy who is going to be on the wrong side of 30 or pay 9 million for a guy who is 25.
I don't believe for a second Cro will get 9 mil from anybody at this point so the question is what would it cost to bring him back too? I'm not sure Revis would either, he will only be a year shy of 30 himself when this season starts.
Rex's system requires absolutely top notch cornerback play or the jets will keep getting burned over the top, like they did last year. It doesn't matter whether you can get Cro for 2 years for $10 million if he's no longer good enough to be a starting CB in Rex's system. That doesn't mean he couldn't be a good corner for someone else in a different system, but if you're playing cover 1 and cover 0 regularly, I don't think Cro is good enough anymore. The irony here is that the jet's front 7 is so good that they probably should play more zone in the secondary (to get more turnovers) than they have in the past (when they pretty much always play man to man, except inside their own 20 they do mix in some zone) and I think Cro is better in a zone system than a man to man system (he's never been great at press coverage, but he has been able to make up for it with his speed and long arms).
laron landry was ranked like the 60th best safety in football when we had him. he was overrated cause he was huge and could tackle. he's getting overpaid in indy. the whole circus was the old front office, idzik is making extremely smart moves. i don't understand how replacing an aging, declining CB who has a cap hit around 16 mil this year for a much young, much better CB is a bad idea in your eyes
At Cro's age, there are no guarantees that the hip problem won't become chronic or that he will bounce back and have even a good year, much less a spectacular one. As several have pointed out, his technique is lacking and he's never bothered to fix it. IMO that's not the type of player you want to pay a lot of money to. Supposedly he wanted to retire a Jet (his own words). Why then were the Jets and he not able to come to terms on a restructure? He obviously wants too much money. How is it a fact that the Jets were shallow at CB even with Cro? They have Milliner, Wilson, Lankster and Walls. With Cro, that made 5. If they re-sign Aaron Berry, they'd have the full 6 that they had last year. Now they need to add 1-2 CBs. If they have a deal in place with Verner or Vontae Davis, they just need to sign a vet FA or draft one somewhere, probably in the middle rounds. If it's the latter, that player may not see, much if any time on the field this year, so how would we see him getting burned all season? Even if the Jets don't have a deal in place and wind up not signing a FA CB, they could draft Gilbert or Joyner or another CB. Even if that CB does get beaten a lot, as most rookie CBs do, so what? The Jets are building for the future, not just the 2014 season. More than likely, it will be at least 2015, if not 2016 before they are ready to make a serious run at the SB, and that's if Geno develops. If not, it probably will be longer. If the player shopping has been taken out of Rex's hands almost entirely, then that's great news for the team and for us fans. Rex has proven that he is not very good at player evaluation. He's also way too obsessed with CBs, and despite his desires to create a bunch of TOs, his CBs have for the most part been abject failures at creating TOs. If Rex is being told to win with what he's given, then so what? That's like most HCs in the NFL. If he can't win like that, then he doesn't deserve to be a HC.
Cro is not better in a zone. That's why he ultimately left San Diego. If Rex's system fails or doesn't work if he doesn't get to notch CB play, then his system is severely flawed and needs to be changed, or better yet, the HC needs to be changed. The team should mix in some zone. It's just another of Rex's stupid obsessions and inconsistencies. He wants to play mixed fronts and different schemes in the front 7, but always the same in the back? He views safeties as unimportant and interchangeable, when the ones he has routinely get beaten like a drum by TEs and RBs. Maybe one of these days some of you guys will wake up and realize that Rex isn't the great coach and defensive mind that you think he is. He can be very good at times and in some games, but he has a lot of inconsistencies and flaws in his thinking and approach.
Rich Cimini Antonio Cromartie says #Jets never tried to renegotiate current deal, but adds "the door is open" for return. (via ESPN NY 98.7). Manish Mehta Antonio Cromartie says the "door's still open" for a possible return to Jets, but he will explore options with other teams. #nyj
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/119740/cromartie-jets-did-not-try-to-re-work-deal Apparantly the Jets didn't speak to Cromartie at all about restructuring.
This all revolves back to Verner. Verner is a definite upgrade and is young. They didn't bother restructuring Cromartie because they have a verbal agreement with Verner. Again, this is all speculation but it makes total sense.
That fits with their interest in Verner as well as an assessment that Cro is not likely to regain his past form. Whether the later is true or not, we will likely see him play out elsewhere. I wish him luck.
Bit sad about Cromartie leaving. Made some great plays with the Jets and was a leader on the field. Shocked we didn't attempt to restructure. Hope we get someone good to replace him
Cro is old and broken. If he were a family pet he'd be put down. If you can't play, you can't stay. RIP
Revis expected to be cut by 4 pm EST Wednesday if they can't trade him, according to Bleacher Report.
So they are going to cut him a year after giving up a 1st round pick, plus they will still be giving up the 4th and they will also need to get a replacement which will run them $8-10M I get it, if this does happen Schefter looks like he knows everything and if it doesn't happen then it is forgotten about. Does this scenario really sound plausible?
