Any chance that Rex would accept DC and assistant HC after the season?

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  1. BigSnacks54

    BigSnacks54 Well-Known Member

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    Coaches play a vital role in a Quarterback's development , I think you seriously need to take a look at what McCarthy did with Rodgers. Once he got the GB job, he held a "QB school " and in this school he transformed Rodger's release (He had a much higher, awkward release), focused on hand eye coordination, finger dexetiry, and he was also taught terminology that would be used in McCarthy's system. And Billiechick took a year to learn the spread offense, and created a masterpiece which focused on attacking the middle of the field wiith Hernandez and Gronk. His plan almost worked, but we all know what ended up happening to Hernandez and Gronk has already suffered numerous injuries in his young career. And Brady and Bill still watch flim together to this day. Do I really have to say anything about Sean Payton and his Gulf Coast Offense? Yes, Brees was a serviceable QB before he got to New Orleans, but the genius that is Mr. Payton turned him into a HOF caliber Quarterback. With the exception of Peyton Manning, every great QB has had a coach, who positively aided them in the Development process.

    This brings me to my next point; you're crazy if you believe Rex has not played a role in our lack of competent QBS over the last six years. Do you really think Rex didn't play role in the self destruction of Mark Sanchez? He doesn't/give a damn about offense and has publicly stated this on numerous occasions. Yet you , you wouldn't want take a well rounded coach over Rex? I can't believe Jet fans are settling for mediocrity, it's a shame. I'd take Daryl Bevel over him in a heartbeat, after all he is working with an organization, which has produced one of the best Quarterback's in the NFL. I'd like to think he knows a thing or two about coaching/developing Quarterbacks. It seems as if you don't realize that the HEAD coach is responsible for OFFENSE and DEFENSE. Rex's lack of knowledge on the offensive ball, alone, makes him an average Head Coach at best. And my evaluation of Rex does not even factor in his unprofessionalism and the fact thay we are one of the most indsiciplined teams, in the NFL and by the way that,as well, falls on Rex. Face it, the AFC Championship game appearances are an achievement of the past; it 's time to move on from Rex.
     
  2. N0samples

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    Change for change's sake is stupid.

    Rex is not the problem.
     
  3. BigSnacks54

    BigSnacks54 Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe fans are settling for mediocrity

    I guess forty five years of losing does that, it's really a shame.
     
  4. Cman69

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    If the Status Quo makes you feel good about being a Jets fan, you're just the kind of fan Woody needs. The kind that accepts mediocrity and willing to back that up with blind loyalty. No need to improve since we have to be "consistent" until hell freezes over. That's also known as maintaining the status quo. Great for ownership, not so great for long time fans.
     
  5. nevbeats319

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    i think media outlets would go nuts to have him
     
  6. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    A team like the raiders would kill to have Rex as headcoach. No way he accepts a position as a DC here.
     
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    Believe it. There are people that will go to their graves thinking that maintaining the status quo is the way to the SB.
     
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    Coaching the Raiders is a career killer. Even Rex isn't stupid enough to take that position under any circumstances. DC/HC? Does it really matter? If you have the Raiders on your resume, you're asking for trouble. At least until sanity returns to that organization.
     
  9. JetsNation06

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    I'd take change any day over the alternative which is doing the same thing over and over and over again with no signs of marked improvement. That's exactly what Rex's record says he's been doing for more than 3 years now.
     
  10. Unhappyjetsfan

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    It's not "settling for mediocrity"; it's attempting to identify the problem so you can fix it. We know (well, most of us know) that QB has clearly been a problem that makes winning a Super Bowl impossible. This has been true for Rex's entire tenure. Yet he has still achieved moderate (albeit unacceptable as a ceiling) success. So people, naturally, want to see if Rex can be a Super Bowl contender with a good (or god forbid, great) QB before deciding he's also a problem that needs correcting. Say what you want, he was beating Peyton Manning at halftime of the AFC championship with Mark Sanchez (who is probably a league-average backup NFL QB) as his starter. It suggests a level of competency.

    That said ... if Rex (and not Idzik) is the one insisting on not playing Vick? He has to go.
     
  11. pclfan

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    I think it's the exact opposite. Rex is popular with the press because they personally like him. He's a fun guy to be around. The owner likes him. Maybe even John Idzik likes him. He's a good story not a boring no fun guy like Eric Mangini. As for the Qb Sanchez is the guy he refused to bench. The Qb he decided to go to war with. He could have made a change but he refused to. So those excuses are lame. Plus he has Mike Vick now and he's saying the same things about him he did of Sanchez. He is what his record is.
     
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    Sooo. Rex Ryan=John Candy?
     
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    You have to really be blind to see, Rex is not a part of the problem.

    We've had this man for six years and you guys still can't see his flaws?

    And I'll say it again, COACHES PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT of QUARTER BACKS. Rex supporters always seem to forget that, and I have feeling it isn't incidental.

    Anyways he is not the only problem, but to deny he isn't of the problems is just asinine.
     
  14. Milliner is your Mommy

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    I think Rex would take a headcoaching job that before ever becoming a DC again. Im sure Oakland isnt his top option and will probably get other offers too though.
     
  15. pclfan

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    Not really. We're talking 6 seasons and including this year 4 in a row not making the playoffs. And look carefully at the 2 years he did make it. At least one of those was due to the fact the Colts let them back in. You want to give him a 7th year. There's plenty of guys out there very talented who would die for a chance to coach this team.
     
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    I see plenty of flaws and plenty of positives. That's not the relevant question. The relevant question are:

    1. Is Rex incapable of winning a Super Bowl with reasonably competitive talent (including a good QB)?
    2. Is there somebody conclusively better, who wants to be the head coach here, who would outperform Rex?

    Until the answer to both questions is "Yes," making a change is foolish.

    Nonsense. Bill Walsh and Joe Gibbs would not have developed Sanchez or Geno into a good QB. Sometimes you just suck. Good teams recognize it quickly and move on.
     
  17. N0samples

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    And would these coaches have done better than Rex with his roster?

    How many would?
     
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    link?
     
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    why does rex always have a bottom 3 qb situation? why do rex fans absolve him of any responsibility to develop the qb? do you believe QB's are developed without the participation of the head coach?

    shouldn't the head coach be held responsible for developing all of his players at all positions, especially the most important position in sports?
     
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  20. BigSnacks54

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    There's that Rex supporter mentality I was waiting for.

    You need another six years to see if Rex is " the guy"? I hope you enjoy losing.

    And I see you also pulled out, who is the better option question. Unlike other posters, I have a guy and his name is Darel Bevel. Want more options? Give me Sumlin or David Shaw.
     

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