5 games in October is much better for judging a players overall worth to the team. And in junc's world, only bad ones count for everyone except Jeter.
You have poor reading comprehension skills, I never said he wasn't as clutch as Jeter LAST YEAR I said he wasn't clutch like Jeter or ortiz have been through the years. Nice try though, try reading slower next time so you can absorb the info better. I do admit it when I am wrong, it just doesn't happen often and clearly in this case I was not wrong. I hope someday i am wrong about ARod, I hope he comes through this postseason. while you are admitting you were wrong on ARod how about one for Torre too?
You'll be ok if Wright, Reyes and Beltran go cold and you lose in the NLDS? You'll say they were great during the reg season so it's ok? It's about winning Championships not about building meaningless fantasy #s. I'd much rather ARod have the year he is having now and come through in octobr than the year he had last year and fail in the postseason.
Haha, oh boy junc. Your exact words were "last year in the regular season." You lost this one. You are wrong sometimes, and actually a LOT more than you think. Just admit it for ONCE.
Are you out of your mind? "Obviously he was alot better last year in the reg season but still wasn't clutch like Jeter" and that is supposed to mean throughout the years and not just in 2005? This is so embarassing for you. Yeah, that's funny. Like when you said the Yankees in 2005 would have scored the same amount of runs in the regular season with a player like Scott Brosius instead of the MVP of the friggin' league. You still haven't admitted how that comment makes absolutely no mathematical sense. Admit what about him? He's a horrible bullpen manager. I've already admitted that.
Here comes devil to try to pile on as usual. I never said clutch like Jeter was in last year's reg season but nice try. For some reason you love to TRY to catch me being wrong but as usual you failed.
What's the alternative? Starting a thread everytime one of them hits into a DP the next season? Boo them every time they come to the plate? Of course the goal is to win a championship but if they don't you still have the most enjoyable season of Mets baseball in awhile to thank them for. You can't bury a player because they have one bad series.
You lost this one, just admit it. I've quoted your exact words a number of times now. Just admit you were wrong, and we'll drop the whole thing.
It wasn't about last year it was about being clutch like Jeter and Ortiz, not specifically a year. When did I say that? I said I'd rather have Brosius than ARod b/c of the salary difference, Brosius' glove and the fact that Brosious came through alot for us in cluch situations in October.
Expectations change, it will be a huge dissapointment if the mets don't make the WS and if those players don't come through yuo guys would be and should be angry. Why b/c devil agreed w/ you? Devil doesn't like me and he always tries to piggy back on other posters who argue w/ me. The facts are I NEVER said Jeter 2005, i said ARod 2005 wasn't jeter-like or Ortiz0like in the clutch.
"Obviously he was alot better last year in the reg season but still wasn't clutch like Jeter" That statement means he wasn't as clutch as Jeter in the regular season last year. If you meant something different, you should admit that you made a mistake and you weren't as specific as you should have been.
keep fighting a losing battle, I never said jeter '05 I just said "like Jeter or ortiz" 2 players known for their clutch ability.
Who, besides Devil, has agreed w/ you? I've explained it numerous times, if you can't get it now then I can't help you. I'll let you think you are right for a change, hopefully it will improve your sullen attitude.
If that's what you meant, fine, but admit that the way you said it was vague. See, this is your problem, you can't admit that you weren't right. No one is saying the point you wanted to make is incorrect, but the way you put it was rightfully taken to mean in 2005 only. All anyone wants you to do is admit the way you stated that sentence was vague, and we'll be done with it.
I do admit re-reading it it can be interpreted the wrong way but I am ALWAYS honest and that was not my intent. I still don't think ARod was clutch as much as an MVP should have been but obviously he was much, much better last year than this year or '04.
I don't dislike you, but I do think you are a pompous arrogant (self proclaimed) know-it-all who refuses to admit your mistakes and twists things to try to get out of them. By putting the words "last year's regular season" in the same sentence as "not clutch like Jeter", you VERY strongly imply that you meant for last season. That was shown to be incorrect, so you changed it to "Arod last year was not as clutch as Jeter the last few years." Well, that's wrong too. Here are Jeter's stats over the last 3 years compared to Arod last year. RISP Jeter: .288 / .380 / .405 A-Rod: .290 / .410 / .484 RISP w/2 outs Jeter: .298 / .396 / .419 A-Rod: .302 / .429 / .512 Close and Late Jeter: .249 / .352 / .392 A-Rod: .293 / .418 / .520 So Junc, once again, [size=+2]YOU ARE WRONG![/size] Well, at least until you change your argument AGAIN.
"once again"?:rofl: Just look at the million big his Jeter has had in his career compard to the few for ARod. Stats are great but my eyes saw Derek in the middle of every rally in '96 and most from '96-'98 including a WS MVP award. You can have all ARod's stats but you can't honestly say you'd rather have ARod up in a big spot over Jeter. Actually as a Sox fan(you rather quiet now, why is that?) you'd rather have ARod up than Jeter but if they were on your team you'd rather have Jeter as would the rest of the World if they were sane.
