The Jets went 10-6 last year coming off of a 4-12 season. If 4-12 this year is enough to get Bowles canned then we're just totally screwed. That's the reality in which the fans chants make Woody do whatever they're chanting for and in that situation the fans should just be chanting "I must go" instead of "Bowles must go" because they're going to hate the team forever in that reality.
I wouldn't mind Kyle Shanahan on the sidelines with Hackenberg as his QB. No need to give away draft picks for Sean Payton. Might as well just accept the inevitable and hope the Jets do a good job of developing Hack and Petty. If they sign another retread QB and allow him to be the starter while using the same lame excuse of he gives us the best chance to win, it will be another nail in the coffin for the FO as they would have proven that the plan they are using for building the team does not work.
Agreed.. While Woody at times pays too much attention to his Fanbase, he pays far more attention to his revenue stream. Empty seats are already paid for in advance so its simply the optics that irritates him. That and all the lost revenue from swag and concession sales. What has to happen is for PSL owners to let their licenses lapse and not renew. The stream of new PSL buyers needs to dry up. The Stadium needs to resemble a post apocalyptic venue where the seats are there but the people aren't. Stop supporting a flawed and substandard product financially. Once the TV ratings start to plummet, so will advertising revenue. Gameday ticket prices need to remain in the sub $10 range for a year or two. More people at the stadium need to be rooting for the road team and wearing their colors. In short, a full on economic boycott will force Woody to make organizational changes which IMO, are more to the root cause than the inept CS he has running things now.
I put Kyle Shanahan in the same boat as Jay Gruden-- probably okay, but nothing to get excited about. I'd rather have Frank Reich or Jim Bob Cooter, if we're going with coordinators. I still say that if I were hiring a coach for this team right now, I'd hire Bill Callahan. Every team he goes to gets better. Every team he leaves gets worse.
Callahan would be a good selection. Knows how to build an all pro OL. Offensive minded. Knows the Jets, brought the Raiders to the Super Bowl.
I saw a few posts from people wanting a new coach and insisting that said coach should have to ride into the season with Petty or Hack as the starter. Not only is there nothing wrong with bringing in a retread QB or even giving the retread the starting job. The big problem comes in when our starting QB forces the ball resulting in interceptions and losses. Our coaches have failed us be ignoring the bad decisions, ignoring the losses and stubbornly refusing to bench our deeply flawed starters. Ryan Fitzpatrick did not give us the best chance to win this year any more than Geno Smith gave us the best chance to win when Rex was coaching. When your starters or your game plan is not working yet you do not have the guts to try something new I do not want you to be the head coach of the Jets.
There is a reason why there are retread QBs, they are not good enough to hold down a starting position, so that being the case, if a team like the Jets are trying to develope young QBs, there is no reason to bring a retread to be their starter. Go with the growing pains that come from developing a young QB instead of dealing with a bad season because the team has given a retread QB another chance to prove what he has already proven, that he is not the type of QB that is going to take your team to the next level.
It's not so much the record but the actual lack of fight, upside, and improvement from much of the roster and coaching staff. We have lost by more than 14 points 6 times this season. Bowles continues to be incredibly conservative, he has not improved in the department of in game adjustments, bad timeout usage, bad challenges, sticks to veterans far too long when there are better options. His coaching staff, for the most part, has looked incredibly bad this season. If we were 4-12 but we lost by a few points every game and we saw signs of improvement and growth then I would be all for Bowles coming back as I traditionally believe that all coaches and GM's deserve 3 years or more to work. But this season has been more than bad. Also, Bowles preaches accountability but won't even suspend a player for saying where the hoes at and fuck this game.... I think the Jets can do better for themselves and Bowles has thus far been a disappointment. Last year his flaws were overlooked because we won, this year his flaws are on display for all to see.
Is that the case or is it still debated? I listened to the snap a few times and could have sworn it was fuck this game. Nonetheless where the hoes at? being late to meetings? I just feel like Bowles is a fake disciplinarian. He preaches accountability and running a tight ship but doesn't act on what he preaches.
The defense has remained relatively intact these last few years. It started 2015 dominant but has gotten progressively worse week after week. Yes, key players have horribly underperformed, but Bowles is at fault mostly. Rex focused on the D at the detriment of the offense as well but at least his defenses didn't get blown out. Bowles has NO core competency. He is a bad HC and should be shown the door.
Plus a million Too bad you are not in the FO This is an absolute mess here and I cant see Todd Bowles growing a brain in '17 Get all the players you need to stop the bleeding and plug the wholes but this CS does not get another chance in my book WITHOUT GOOD COACHES YOUR TALENT IS WASTED yes give up some picks ...no pain no gain +1000 His is flawed and his coaching deteriorated in 2016 What's going to change? Guy will just get worse and won't beat good teams Jmho
Bowles is an idiot and just doesn't get it. He's the shell of a coach on the sideline. He is gutless and not once have I ever thought "Wow Bowles is doing a good job. Happy we got this guy." He is a moron, has 0 awareness, and is submissive. Gtfo
Sorry man, predicting demise before the off season even begins is absurd. They haven't done anything with the roster or even drafted yet. Bowles helped get us 10 wins last year, no reason to think him staying automatically means failure. Firing a coach after just 2 years(where one year was10-6) is silly. People reference the Bills firing Rex as if they are a model franchise for us to aspire to be. GTFO, that team hasn't made the playoffs since the 90s. You can't fire coaches every 2 years if they don't have immediate success. The Bills didn't even give Rex a chance to get players that fit his defensive schemes.
2-14 is where we should want to be next year and without major drama involved. The Jets have to get their QB and one of the few proven ways to do that is to pick #1 in the draft in the right year.
Following a 10-6 season with a four win season is, in and of itself, not sufficient to fire a coach. There certainly are other factors related to coaching performance that must be considered. A month ago I might have lobbied for keeping Bowles around but today I see nothing whatsoever that indicates he has done anything or is capable of doing anything to right the ship before it plunges to the bottom of the sea. There are no signs he can assemble a decent game plan, manage the clock, make in-game adjustments and get his team ready each week. Stoicism is not a trait I look for in a head coach. There is no glimmer of hope apparent, no spark of life anywhere in the building. And nothing to indicate a repeat of his early success against a crap schedule can be repeated. If there's something positive in Bowles's performance I've missed please point it out.
Coaches with weak rosters are often too conservative. This is a natural response to not wanting to get their brains beat in every week. Sticking with vets is another part of that syndrome. You don't want to lose any game you might have won. Which QB gave the Jets the best chance to win all season? Fitzpatrick, although he wasn't likely to lead them to a win he was more likely than the alternatives.
I don't think that excuses the countless times Bowles has gone for field goals instead for touchdowns in losing situations down by a ton of points. What purpose did it serve going for a field goal being down 41 points to the Pats. Go for the touchdown, it is beyond embarrassing to go for a field goal no matter how "bad" the roster is. It sends a message that you don't trust your offense, it also makes your opponent laugh at you and know they are kicking the shit out of you. Show some fight, be aggressive, instead Bowles has done the opposite. Also, this roster is much better than the one rex had in 2014 and we will most likely end up with the same record. The roster is middle of the pack IMO, it has a lot of holes, but that is also exasperated by a bad coaching staff.
