I think Wilks has clearly done a bad job with this defense, even factoring in talent and injury issues. So a change was right. I'm wondering what role Glenn played though. Should he have stepped in more even prior to firing him if the unit was struggling so much? The last two weeks were dreadful, but the unit seemed to stabilize a bit for the middle portion of the season. That's what I'm hoping Glenn can build on next year because he's coming back, like it or not
He was going to give him the last 3 games? Must be Wilks didn't like Glenn's comments, they argued, and he got an early dismissal
Hughes reported that a bunch of the defensive players were sick of Wilks and boy if that wasn't obvious the last two weeks...
The defense is not playing smart. The LB’s especially. They get completely outsmarted on play action, they’re not watching the cues of the OL tipping off the play, they over pursue, they play with their heads down, and they constantly get caught off balance. As a whole the entire team plays with a minimal intelligence level towards the details of the game and diagnosing the play in real time. It’s coaching, and much as Wilks deserves some blame the problem is much bigger.
I feel like I answer this question once a week. Let me preface it with this rather than waiting til the end: THERE IS PLENTY GLENN HAS DONE WRONG AND STILL HAS TO PROVE HIMSELF. As for what I've liked: -Accountability is the highest it's been and you can pretend thats a who cares, but it's really not. Accountability is why we have arguably the best PR/KR in the league. -Two of the three coordinator hires have been good to elite. The tape is very kind to Engstrand and the actual results show Banjo was an absolute homerun. -Talent evaluation has been slightly above average and Glenn is working hand in hand with the GM on it. Synergy and results are a good combo. Especially when you have a boatload of picks and money. -Less flags... low bar, but we cleared it. You don't go from worst to first overnight, especially not with bad players, so I'll take worst to 19th (as of today). -Players play hard for him outside of the last two weeks and based off reports, that has more to do with the DC. Time for Glenn to prove the reports right.
Beat me to it. I’m all for that , and he can take over as Hc again if Glenn fails. But I would love for Glenn and Rex to succeed here
you can only teach them so much. I'm not mad at Wilks' dismissal, its deserved. But I do think the players on this defense just completely suck. They sucked before the trade deadline deals and now they really, really suck you look at the starting lineup from sundays game, brutal. filled with practice squad level talent Micheal Clemons DL Harrison Phillips DL Will McDonald DE Jowon Briggs DT Mykal Walker LB Quincy Williams LB Jamien Sherwood LB Brandon Stephens CB Qwan'tez Stiggers CB Malachi Moore DB Tony Adams S
Stiggers got absolutely abused. I felt pretty bad for him towards the end. Tony Adams is probably one of the worst tacklers I can remember. I don’t even understand the point in trotting him out there anymore.
Quincy’s always had that problem but at least he makes some plays here and there. Sherwood is just awful. He doesn’t understand how to take on a block at all nor does he understand when he overruns the play he makes the block easy and creates gaping seams for the running backs.
I don’t disagree, but there are basics of NFL football that can easily be coached. It’s one thing when it’s a player or two, but when the entire defense isn’t looking to read the OL on play action my suspicion is they aren’t coached to do so. Jax/Lawrence has one of the worst PA sells out there. There’s very little effort to disguise it. Trevor’s ball fake won’t be winning any awards. The OL is standing up and not moving to the next level, yet no one on the D recognizes it at all. They all sell out towards the fake and turn into a fire drill trying to get back when it’s too late. That’s coaching, not player deficiency.
Agreed on both. But I also do wonder how much is the system (not for Adams, he's the worst tackler on the planet). When Quincy and Stiggers both got lost on the wheel route TD I couldn't tell who was wrong. That keeps happening. Is it because the players are bad or because the plan was awful? But yea, Stiggers needs to be a gunner and only a gunner for the rest of his career.
Quincy Williams has always overpursued and bit on play fakes. 7th year in the league, 2nd team, and countless coaches, and yet none of them can get him to improve with that. and right now as bad as I believe Quincy Williams is at playing linebacker, he's the longest tenured and "best" player on that defense. Scary stuff. It's player deficiency here...
undrafted free agents Jordan Clark and Dean Clark both were on the field for the MAJORITY of the defense snaps sunday. that's how bad this roster is. The defense needs a complete overhaul at every level this offseason.
So if what you’re saying is true, how can you be onboard with firing Wilks? These players are uncoachable in this case, so we just fired a guy for not being able to coach them?
Jets had internal tension before Steve Wilks firing (report) Evidently the players had enuf too. Pride must have taken over. Must have really pissed of Quinnen to the point he was just done with the organization.
We have talent issues on defense but it's hard to argue Wilks wasn't the main problem. We started the year with roughly the same roster as last year and the defense still sucked. There's no logical conclusion other than that the scheme worsened significantly. This is why I'm a bit wary of the calls to go heavy on defense in the upcoming draft.
Because the defense looked mostly clueless when there were two pro-bowl/all-pro guys playing on it and we weren't starting 5th stringers because of injury.
I think it’s both… Yes there is a lack of top line talent on D for sure, especially after trading two former all pro’s BUT… The coaching was abysmal. No two ways about it. We’ve had WAY too many receivers running free in our secondary all year long…that’s as much scheme and coaching as it is player talent. The tackling woes are both but probably more on the players I’d say. The lack of picks is scheme and effort. We aren’t coached to punch the ball out like so many other teams do. And when the other team fumbles, they recover it more often than we do…that’s a bit of hustle and swarming to the ball, or lack thereof. The players are not playing with fire…they look defeated and frustrated and they’ve checked out. That is a lot on coaching. They don’t believe. This defense sucks yes, but it sucked just as bad even before those two trades. Many of the same players from last year, and we got worse.
I can think the players are terrible with some uncoachable and Wilks hasnt done a good job at the same time. Also there appears to be internal strife so change was necessary
