No question there is a lack of talent on the D. There is no question we have some massive holes, with guys like Clemons, Adams, Stingger, Jordan and Dean Clark. But make no mistake, Wilks system did nothing whatsoever to put the rest of the talent or anyone else for that matter in the best position to win, nada, zero. In fact, it was the opposite, he took what they do best and screw it up just to play his system, the very system that got him fired four time before. That is on AG for not seeing the writing on the wall a lot sooner. There were never on the same page, AG, SW and the players. I’m betting the farm you will see a more effective D moving forward even with the lack of talent. Having said that, let’s stop the pipe dream of moving up for a QB with question marks and make every pick count to beef up this D with talent. If the right QB falls to us, and I feel a lot better about Moore than Mendoza, (even though Mendoza might be more ready now with his higher floor but lower ceiling )grab him otherwise move on. This D needs major help and a talented DC. No time to waste precious picks.
For all of the shitting on Glenn, the Lions defense went from 7th in points allowed to 23rd this year AND they have a fully healthy Aidan Hutchinson for the entire year. The Lions offense is still #1 in the NFL in points per game this year. So yeah, still a lot to be desired out of him and this coaching staff, but it’s a relatively talentless roster with the worst QB play in the NFL. I’ll reserve judgement for one more year assuming there’s a solid infusion of talent in the offseason.
Yeah, giving him another year is not an unreasonable take for sure. The roster isn’t good. It’s his first year, and maybe he has been learning something along the way. Can’t see anything concrete on the field, but I do like that he finally (after WAY past time I think) made the change in benching Fields and now in firing Wilks. Of course, both of those were HIS calls so I’m not gonna jump up and down for him finally realizing they were horrible decisions by the end of the year. But those two things were fucking obvious to most of us long ago. I fully believe that a better coach, and more specifically an offensive minded coach, would have gotten much better results. For example, if we had someone like McCarthy here, no way we are this incompetent. No way to prove it I know, but I fully believe that we wouldn’t be THIS bad. AG took a bad team and actually made it WORSE in almost every measure. Not least of which was due to his handpicked choice of QB and DC. That’s all on him. Personally, I’d rather go one and done and move on as I’ve seen really nothing to hang our hat on. OK, BA pointed out how we went from last to 20th in penalties…ok great…we went from the worst to just very bad. I don’t think AG has shown enough. There is no energy here. This is not a undermanned team competing their hearts out and just missing out with some close losses. This is a bottom of the fucking barrel disinterested team that plays the way they’re coached - Poorly. We have been blown out many times. Many (most?) of our games are over in the first quarter. Our season was over in fucking September for fucks’ sake. AG made bad hiring decisions, he made bad player decisions, he has made MANY bad in game decisions, he has not played the clock well, he has looked lost and defensive in press conferences when he gets asked fucking valid questions. He’s a hot mess. Can he learn? Who knows? Maybe. Maybe not. Personally I just see no reason to waste another year with this shit. I know Woody won’t fire him because Woody is a moron and has no clue what a competent coach looks like, but I just think we’ll be wasting another year.
Man I feel like this is insanely sensationalized. At this point I'd vote to fire AG just so people stop talking about it. It seems like having AG here and rooting for him to work out isn't an option.
As much as I want to defend AG, I can’t. Your post is spot on. We know he’s going to get next year so there’s no helping that. We better see a night/day transformation in 2026 or I’ll EXPECT he be fired if this team isn’t battling for a playoff spot, full stop. I’m done waiting on rebuilds.
I honestly don’t know what you see in him to give you hope though…I read your list but I just don’t agree with it…which is fine I’m no expert and you could be right and I could be wrong…the discussion is ok by me. Of course I root for him to succeed. I root for the Jets to win every week when I watch them and I’m disappointed every fucking time. I totally get that losing improves our draft position and I’m ok with it at this point, but when I watch the games that goes out the window and I fully root for a win. But I just don’t have any reason at all for optimism with AG. I’ve seen this show before time after time and it’s always ended the same way. In fact, I think AG is worse than Saleh. At least Saleh had his side of the ball playing well. He knew how to get the most of his players, and as the talent on that side of the ball improved, the defense did as well. AG took most of those same guys and made it worse. You can say that was all Wilks, fine…but he’s the fucking HC so it’s on him. Yes, he finally saw the light after multiple blowout losses. Hooray for him. I just don’t see anything watching this team play that says ok…THIS is who we are. He sure talks a big game. But it’s all bullshit. We suck on both sides of the ball. Yes our talent is not good, but do you see him maximizing anybody? I sure don’t. So we’ll have another year and my guess is with all those picks we may see a couple more wins (I would hope!) and like I said earlier, it’s not unreasonable to give him another year with a bunch of hopefully better players to see if he can show something, but sure as shit he has not shown much at all this year. And I’m tired of wasting years.
It's been 75% of one year with one of the worst rosters in the entire league! Why anyone would be drawing definitive conclusions is way beyond me. And who has he maximized... well first off its not HIM. It's an entire staff. And beyond that, you have guys like Stephens who stunk their entire career and now are in the upper echelon. Rookies like Thomas stepped in for an all-pro and despite some rookie mistakes we haven't missed a beat there. Malachi Moore has been serviceable. Jowon Briggs is one of the best DL in the league at creating pressure. Mason Taylor is already a better blocker in the pros than he was in college. We have a top 10 run game which means the offensive staff he chose is getting the most of of the OL and RBs. If this was happening in Indiana it wouldn't even really be talked about. We'd have run Kyle Shanahan out of town.
This is such revisionist history. We have more talent on offense than we've had in a decade and the defense retained 90% of key starters from last year when it was elite.
THIS is some revisionist history. ESPN ranked the rosters, Jets were dead last coming into the year. PFF had us 28th. Quite literally, this isn't revisionist history, it's exactly what happened. Our WR room was Garrett Wilson, Josh Reynolds, Tyler Johnson, Xavier Gipson, Allan Lazard and Arian Smith. That is hands down the worst WR room in the league heading into the season. And it only got better once we lost Garrett Wilson. We lost Davante Adams and went into the season with those WRs, but it's the most talent we've had in a decade? Come on. The only offensive area we have more talent in than last year is right tackle, and by midseason, TE. Massive downgrade at QB makes everyone worse as well. The defense, sure, should be better. But let's call it like it is... we were 20th in yards allowed last year and led the league in missed tackles. We weren't exactly the fuckin 2010 Rex Jets defense.
And we are 30th in points allowed this year. When the performance regresses significantly with roughly the same players, the only logical conclusion is the coaching got worse. Saleh was a bad coach, but I don't see how anyone can be encouraged by Glenn so far. We see first-year coaches turn teams around in one year every single year. Look at the Bears and Jaguars this year - and they were worse than us last year.
You’re ignoring the part where we were ranked as one of the worst if not the worst roster in the league and pretending we actually got better so I dunno if this will land, but the Jags and Bears have competent to above average QBs and their WR rooms blow ours out of the water, not to mention more talent everywhere else on the field outside of OL and RB
Can’t take anyone seriously if they think the 2024 Jets were elite at anything that’s poor football knowledge this site used to have good posters
At this point everyone is grasping at straws. Straws to validate continued support of a franchise that has been regressing for many years, straws to justify the current coach(es), straws to justify firing…hell, pick a straw. It all boils down to the same shit…losses.
You're the guy who was just campaigning for us to take Sellers in the first round this year when even he doesn't think he's going in the first round right? Thanks for gracing us with your football wisdom which no team in the league apparently agreed with, really raising the IQ of the board there chief. Our defense was 5th last year in YPG allowed. What's your definition of elite? And do you disagree that our defense got worse this year even before we traded Quinnen and Sauce?
LOL I dont think Sellers ever said he doesn't think he's a 1st rounder. I would like to see that if he did. This seems like something completely unrelated though It doesn't matter what my definition of elite is. There is simply NO definition of elite that exists where last year's team qualifies. You gotta be losing your damned mind to think they were elite last season. Yeah, they took a step back this year, from like 20th worse to 25th worse lol. They sucked last year and this year, we know because we live in it
