BREAKING: Steve Wilks fired

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  1. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Why isn't he entering the draft then? Oh that's right, you've speculated it's because he's just soooo loyal to SC. Makes a lot of sense dipshit, as if all of these guys don't have advisors telling them where they're expected to go in the draft.

    Again, do you disagree with me that the defense got worse this year even before we traded Quinnen and Sauce?

    I don't think you even know what you're arguing against here. Just being a salty, low IQ cunt per usual.
     
  2. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Well ya know there is this thing called money, he's being paid handsomely to stay in school. That may have played a factor in the decision!

    yes the defense was worse. from roughly 20th worse to roughly 25th worse. they were never elite, always below average to poor
     
  3. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Yeah he did it for the money - that's why he elected to earn less money than any guy taken in the first round will earn.

    Are you mentally deficient?
     
  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    you have no way of knowing what he's making
     
  5. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    You're really arguing that a guy motivated by money would choose a 1 year NIL deal over a 4 year, multi million dollar NFL contract, and you're also calling other people dumbasses in the process.

    Hilarious dude.
     
  6. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    ugh, no, thats not something I said. believe it or not, Sellers will get that multi-million dollar NFL deal NEXT year by the way. Its not going away

    He will take multi million contract this year in college and next year from the NFL. He gets his cake and eats it too
     
  7. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    He'll only get that next year if he goes in the first round. He didn't enter the draft this year because he doesn't expect to go in the first round. You were campaigning to draft him in the first round this year, something even he doesn't think is going to happen.

    Try to follow along genius.
     
  8. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    He will be a first round draft pick unless he gets hurt or something. He's taking a risk for sure.
     
  9. Khan

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    Unless he gets injured, or flames out. Both happen to dudes every year. It's a risk I wouldn't be willing to take, especially since next year's QB class is supposed to be another big one.
     
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    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    He's not taking a risk at all. He would've been a 2nd rounder+ had he declared for this upcoming draft. He's doing the smart thing by going back to school.

    My point was how dumb you are for campaigning for us to draft him in the first round this year when even he doesn't think he's a first rounder. The irony of you calling other people dumb while spouting bullshit no NFL team, nor the guy in question, even agrees with is comical.
     
  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    umm ok

    I’m a dumbass but the Jets defense was never elite last season. that part I’m right about
     
  12. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    You're arguing semantics - "elite" vs. "good" - while missing the overarching point that our defensive coaching has regressed from last year.

    Again, you don't even know what you're arguing against. Or do you think our defensive coaching improved from last year?
     
  13. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    good point yeah, I think Arch Manning will have a bounce back season too and if Dante Moore decides to stay in school next year will be a loaded class.

    Sayin at OSU as well.

    Good year to have 3 first round picks
     
  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Hard to tell, there has been some individual improvement but the cupboard is very empty. In general they have taken a step back

    I never said they were improved by the way, I said they went from 20th to 25th like 3 times


    The defensive coordinator was just fired so that would indicate the head coach thinks they could be better lol
     
  15. REVISion

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    Where's the individual improvement? Which units or players are playing better than they were last year?

    We are cruising to an NFL record for fewest takeaways in a season dude. This defense blows.
     
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    Look, we were really bad last year, and we’re really bad this year. I’d say we are worse this year than last all the way around.

    Hard to argue otherwise.

    Some of us put more of that weight on the shit roster than on AG, some of us put it on AG.

    Personally, I don’t think much at all of AG’s job this year, I personally have seen nothing that gives me any hope that he’s the guy. In fact, I have A LOT more to complain about with him than I have positives to say about him. I don’t have a high confidence level that he will become a good HC, as I think he’s been THAT bad.

    If it were my call, I’d never have hired a mediocre DC as my next HC anyway, but being what it is, if it were my call, I’ve seen enough and I would fire him as soon as the season is over. I would go look for an offensive coach and I would start with McCarthy and Kingsbury and then look and see what OC’s could maybe be worth taking a chance on. I would FOR SURE not even consider any rookie DC’s. Period.

    That would be my plan.

    Alas, I have zero say in this, and I know Woody will make the wrong call as he always does.
     
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    With this much draft capital at their disposal, it really is the most opportune time to see if they can go lure an experienced offensive minded guy to run the show. That draft capital is about the best they'll ever be able to offer short of already having a franchise guy. I would think Kingsbury would like another crack at it now that he's learned a thing or two from the Murray fiasco. Just an opinion.
     
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    To play devil’s advocate, if you looked up Sean McDermott’s resume as a defensive coordinator you’d probably say the same thing. Tomlin had one year as a defensive coordinator with the 14th ranked scoring defense before coming a head coach.

    Demeco Ryans had two good years as a defensive coordinator in San Francisco, but every coordinator there has basically succeeded on the defensive side of the ball. Same with Mike Macdonald in Baltimore and he might be one of the best head coaches in the league.
     
  19. Jets79

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    Sure…I’m not saying a defensive coach can’t succeed…clearly they can.

    However, for OUR team, I don’t think so. We have had no real offensively talented coach here since when? Parcells? That’s 25 years of basically ignoring the offense. It’s a big part of why we have failed with so many QB’s, including highly drafted top 5 guys like Sanchez, Darnold, and Zach. Inability to identify talent (Sanchez and Zach) and inability to develop it when found (Darnold and I guess you could argue Geno maybe as well). At this point, it’s endemic here. Whatever the root cause, it’s in our DNA as multiple GMs and HCs have been part of it. The only constant is Woody.

    So yeah, I just don’t think a defensive minded HC is the best choice, let alone a rookie one. I don’t know why Woody is SO fucking clueless, but when you’ve tried the same thing over and over and over with Herm, Mangini, Rex, Bowles, Saleh and now Glenn, and it’s NEVER worked, how fucking STUPID do you need to be to try it again? It’s literally mindboggling to me how idiotic Woody is…I can’t say enough how little I think of him.

    So we need to break the cycle. We need to pull a George move from Seinfeld, and literally do the opposite of what Woody’s first thought is.
     
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  20. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Clemons has improved, it’s not saying much but he was simply unplayable last season. They cut the penalty shit down

    They took a couple corners that other teams gave up on and found something with Brownlee and Stephens. That allowed them the room to trade Gardner

    for the most part it’s been shit for sure though. And the lack of takeaways as you mention is unacceptable so I’m glad Wilks is gone.

    They can cut or fire anyone really i dont care
     

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