there is also countless busts that went in the top of the first round ala Aliki Smith Ryan Leaf etc. The thing is we dont know if Clemens is a bust yet. There will always be that franchise qb next year. We dont have to gamble on one now. We already have our gamble.
We don't know but the FO has certainly got their thoughts about it. Like I said, if they take a QB with their second pick then you and I and everybody else on this board WILL know that he is a bust.
Well thats what the CS would think, but what about when he goes to another team and lights it up. How do you think that would make us Jet fans feel. The CS is not that stupid to give up on a guy after 8 starts. How did Peyton Manning look after his first year? Especially now that they have a real ol they can truly evaluate him. If they took a qb with one of there first two picks i would be VERY upset.
Peyton Manning had a lot more going for him than Clemens ever will. He also started in his rookie year and not after a year and a half of being groomed for the job. There is just no comparison.
I don't understand what people see in Clemens. You would think he was the 1st pick of the draft and the JETS have a vested interest in him. If the CS are only using the 8 games to evaluate then they should be fired. They have had the guy in practice for 2 years, seen 8 games, and graded him on all of it. To think the CS doesn't know what they have in Clemens is crazy. If they thought he was the next coming like people on this board think, then he would have been made the starter and we would be going off into the Clemens era. Bottom line, the Jets do not have a QB they are comfortable with.
I agree 100%. The guy was a mid to late 2nd rounder that we took a flyer on. While he hasn't had a ton of starts, he has had enough playing time to show me that he is not the long term solution. Clemens can barely see over the OL for God's sake not to mention that fact that he can't even distinguish himself from a guy who has had 2 arm surgeries!!! It is my opinion that we will be spinning our wheels for the next several years until we find someone else. And why wait another year to draft a QB, all that will do is add another year to the learning curve... I haven't seen alot of Ryan, but Brohm looks NFL ready to me. Petrino's offense at UL was complex and very similar to what the NFL teams run. I feel that with a good OL we could throw him in there much earlier, especially if Clemens and/or Pennington starts to stink it up. If I'm in charge, I do all I can to trade out of the 6 spot (not an easy thing to do nowadays...) and put myself in the position to grab Brohm and maybe a top tier WR somewhere in the 1st round....
I have to question this reporting from the standpoint that we do not even have a QB coach on our staff. I checked nyjets.com and I see noone with that title. So who the hell was he talking to???? Schotty? If that's the case the reporter shoud've clarified the point.
I could not disagree more. Louisville under Petrino ran the shotgun more than 60% of the time and religiously used 4 WR sets. It was almost a run n shoot offense at times....not on the level of a Texas Tech, but comprable to a degree. Brohm has to learn how to be a NFL QB. He has to learn how to take 5 to 7 step drops while reading a defense, let alone how to stop plant and throw; among a mirad of other things. He is a 4 year project if there ever was one. He is a late 3rd round pick at best.
I stand corrected (I glossed roight over him) - BUT - A defensive assistant that then coached the WR's for 5+ years. I sure as hell hope this guy is not representing the Jets in discussions and interviews with easily the most important position on any NFL team...
Huh??? You have to be kidding me? Petrino had Michael Bush pounding the ball for 3 years and then Kolby Smith. They were far from a run and shoot offense. The only reason they would throw a 3 and 4 WR set out there is to pick on a specific CB. Most colleges don't have 2 good CB's, much less 4... They could not be any further from Texas Tech style football if they tried. Brohm has been groomed since he was a kid by his older brother Jeff, a former NFL QB. He is more than ready and to think he is a 4 year project is laughable...
Very well said I don't know how somebody can call Brohm a project- the guy is as close to NFL ready as any QB in the last few years. He has great mechanics and knows how to read defenses- he's trained under guys with pro experience, most notably his brother. The Louisville offense was not a run and shoot- even when in the shotgun, Brohm rarely left the pocket. The guy has great pocket presence and fantastic footwork. Even when in the shotgun, he knows how to take his time and set and throw. Watch video of him and try telling me he doesn't know how to plant and throw. He doesn't rush throws either. Even if the Louisville offense used the shotgun effectively, he still spent plenty of time under center. This contrasts to guys coming from pure spread offenses like Kellen Clemens. Mechanics wise, I take him over anybody that's come out of the draft since Carson Palmer. I think the strongest testament to Brohm's skill is that a UK fan is praising him Brohm is the goods. I've never seen any reputable source say Brohm is a "late 3rd round" pick.
I wouldnt mind Brohm as our QB he was considered a top 10 prospect last year his team fell apart on him this year and he still did rather well. If we were to draft him in later 1st round (if able to trade down) or with our 2nd I wouldnt be upset more competition the better imo. If we are to pick a QB in lower rounds I wouldnt mind taking a gamble on Josh Johnson the QB from San Diego State 43 TD 1 INT dont care that hes lower division thats awareness of the field right there.
Man you come out with some silly statements. Brohm had no chance to be the number 1 QB last year, as he not even close to Jamarcus Russell in ability. Thats like saying Brady Quinn could have went number1 too. NO By Brady Quinn going 23, just confirms no one thought he was a franchise caliber qb. DON i love when you post, you make me look like a genius.
jeaux, a headless giraffe using residual nervous twitches to try to scrawl it's name in the sand with it's hoof couldn't make you look like a genius.
Well, in hindsight he couldn't have been any worse that what you got, could he...but it only cost you 60 million bucks.
Yea we will see what Raiders got In jamarcus Russell, and its going to be you my friend eating some crow. The fact is Jamarcus Russell had a completetion percentage in high sixty percent, in the toughest conference in America. (sec) 28TDs to 8 interceptions. That my friend is why he was a franchise Qb. Lets see J Russell didn't sign till second week of the season. Played at the end with very limited knowledge of the playbook. OH MY Im really worried. Hey Genius go look up what fellow franchise QB Peyton manning,did his rookie year(28 INterceptions) Typical with all young QBs as they usually struggle their first year. WHat Great for Russell is Raiders have a running game for him to lean on.(you can't even fathom how that helps a yopung QB in his developement Raiders have their starting QB- jamarcus Russell. After the season I will bring this post back and we see where you went wrong.
If I was you Joe and knowing your history with predictions I would be saying that Russell is going to be a complete bust. I thought he would be a bust before last draft but now with the way you are talking him up I am certain about it.
How do you play at the very end of the season with little knowledge of the playbook?? From Sept-Dec.,, 3 months to learn the playbook. I can learn a playbook in 3 months. Even you can Joe.... no 4 for you, but still you can learn it. If a highy touted QB can't learn a playbook in 3 months of sitting... Oakland, you have another problem...
