Possibly, but Rex still puts a lot of pressure on the corner position with the way he runs his D. Teams with great pass rush that get away with sub par corners are usually teams that run mostly zone on the back end to help their corners out. They aren't putting their corners out there in man to man the whole way. maybe Rex changes his style a little this fall to compensate for the corner position
Nice post, except for the last line. Heh. But on the subject of this thread, your analysis is on the money.
Rex can adapt, we had awful corner play last year and the D was still good. barring anything disastrous as far as injuries go we have better corners on paper(based on the year Cro had, obviously a healthy Cro is much better) going into 2014 and the DL should be even better AND we added another pass rusher.
Kyle Wilson needs to step up now. He needs to play like the 1st round pick that he is. It's high time he makes a jump. It's pretty sad that a guy like Darrin Walls or Dowling are being talked about over Kyle Wilson. It's his 5th year in this league. He wasn't drafted to be a nickel corner forever. Time to step up
Hate to say it, but all we know about McDougle is this will be two seasons in a row he is out for. How can anyone really count on him going forward? As you say, Patterson was a hold the fort guy, and is no lock to play a whole season. And going forward, with the rosy scenario of McDougle becoming the #2 Cb now realistically gone, the Jets either have to FA for Cb next year, which the FO Homers here all say was NOT the way to go this off season, or go high pick in the draft at Cb.
I agree. Too many here who pooh pooh the importance of having Cb's who can play man coverage ignore that such approach is a key part of Rex's defense. the kind of D he has been successful with, not some other kind like going cover 2 all the time. We have no assurance Rex would be particularly successful running a different D.
Agreed but I don't think that will be happening. Year after year we say this, but we have yet to see it. I think Wilson has hit his ceiling to be honest. He should have blossomed already. Rex needs to play a system to his strengths. Keep the receivers in front of him so he doesn't need to chase. That's where Kyle Wilson blossoms.
A 3rd Rd Rookie is replaced by Darrin Walls/Ras-I Dowlings. That's the only change. Unless you're telling me McDougle suddenly was locking down the #2 spot and looked like a phenom, he would have been lucky to sniff the field if Milliner/Wilson/Patterson/Walls/Lankster are all playing. Milliner is injured. He is not out for the season or gone for a long stretch of regular games. Who knows how his play would have been with or without injury. Since he sucked last year, you'd figure it can't be any worse. I stand by what i stated. Nothing changes. We'll sign a vet or someone cut to replace McD. Life goes on. No better, no worse.
You don't have to buy it. His performance speaks for itself. Denard was a first team All-American who played man "island" coverage. He won the award for the best DB in the nation. And Pryor was...oh yeah, he wasn't even third team and won no awards. So clearly in the eyes of people who actually watch college football he was not "the best safety." If you love Pryor and his blatantly illegal hits, fine. But trying to downplay Denard just shows you don't know what you're talking about. P.S. Marvin Lewis, Rex's mentor, called Denard the best rookie cb he's ever seen.
Depth man. Depth. You keep saying nothing has changed, but everything has changed. Milliner was our starting corner and our best corner on the roster. By all indications, he was making huge strides and looked great in the preseason debut. He's now injured and is likely to not be back for the season opener. He will lose weeks of offseason work that he desperately needs as a second year player. He also will be dealing with a high ankle sprain, which could lead to many more issues as a corner. We then lost a quality depth player in McDougle. You can say what you want about him and where he was chosen in the draft but he was depth and was being groomed to be a starter. We are now down one more corner in a depleted secondary. Our starting corners were Milliner, Patterson, and Wilson with McDougle, Lankster, and Walls behind. Our starting corners now are Walls, Lankster, and Wilson with Patterson behind. Patterson is our only depth worth a damn right now and he's injured again. Bullshit nothing has changed
Have a question may be kind of off topic but with 2 corners out for a while won't it also effect the WR completion? Make some look better than they actually are?
If the OLB's don't get pressure on the QB in passing downs they could have the same issue as last year, can't get off the field on 3rd down, it wore down the D a lot last year and even though it was only pre-season game 1 it was happening again. Hopefully the safety depth will help but I see them more as run stoppers than cover guys at this point. It also means added pressure on the CB's if the OLB's can't get pressure on the QB and with the stretch of games they have in the beginning of the year against top QB's "torched" could be the operative word if they can't get the job done so I think the OLB play is huge to the success of the D this year.
Oh yeah? Before or after the Bengals drafted him? Pryor's illegal hits? Are you for real or did you just start watching football a year ago? Just cause a hit is big and causes extreme contact doesnt mean it is illegal. I can understand people bashing Idzik for not going after one of the top CB's. But you bashing him for not picking a rookie CB when its clear that most rookie CB's dont do well their 1st year is unfair. Can Dennard be a better pro than Pryor? Yeah he can. But to now criticize him in hindsight because injuries happened is insane.
Antonio Allen is playing CB at today's practice. Interesting but I'm not sure how it'll pan out. I would like to get Landry on the field more given how everyone is praising him as a leader and for his improved play, and getting AA, Landry and Pryor on the field at the same time would be intriguing. Not sure if Allen can keep up with WR's though, more of a TE matchup, physical guy. Darryl Slater @DarrylSlater · 11m The Jets start practice with Ellis Lankster and Antonio Allen at CB spots and Dawan Landry and Jaiquawn Jarrett at safety spots. Dennis Waszak Jr. @DWAZ73 · 11m Not sure college LB-turned-NFL safety Antonio Allen could regularly play CB. But, he's a terrific athlete. Try everything in camp. #Jets
Update: well would you look at that... Darryl Slater @DarrylSlater · 23s Antonio Allen, who has developed into a solid man cover guy, picks off a Geno Smith pass for Jeremy Kerley.
Denard would have been my choice, guy's a freaking beast. Pryor looks to be good and adds an element that we haven't had since LaRon Landry left, and safety was probably as weak as corner was. Hopefully when Milner gets back and Pryor gets into the swing of things this will all be sorted out.
Where is Josh Bush? Came via the 2012 draft - 6th round 187 overall. 55 spots before Antonio Allen (not sure how that happened). He played CB at Wake Forest before going to safety for his senior year. At least he has CB playing experience. Might be time for him to provide depth.
Not too upset over mcdougle because for all we know he coulda been another Ellis Lankster as opposed to being the next big thing for our defense. We never know. Milliner coming back is the good news overall, yes i wanted to see Dex do his thing too but injuries happen. Milliner showing promise i think he picked up where he left off after his outing week 1 in the preseason. 2nd CB was a question mark anyway , it remains one. Maybe Rex will have to move Pryor to FS to help blanket that side (considering he's as good as we expect) and put Landry back at SS, using Allen as that 3rd LB safety thing he likes to run.. Let him run support & cover TE's thats his specialty anyway. Things aren't as bad as a lot of people are making them seem. Somebody has to step up to #2.
