"Chad is the starting QB"

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  1. Beamen

    Beamen New Member

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    And that fellow Jets fans, is all you should need to hear to decide that Clemens should be our QB
     
  2. Coach K

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    so the o line was perfect those 3 qtrs than i assume.
     
  3. Coach K

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    the ball was still catchable. this is the nfl. somebody has to step up.

    McCareins blows
     
  4. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. But I also think that play should have been run for Baker. Bad call to back to him a second time.
     
  5. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I think we'll probably see Pennington listed as Questionable all week again. I don't know if Clemens earned a second start but maybe. I liked what I saw in the fourth quarter - he looked like he did in the preseason. The first 3 quarters he looked like he did last preseason. I'm hoping it was just a matter of him being very nervous in his first NFL start. Time will tell.

    I'm sure the CS is looking at this game as a "must win". My guess is that if CP isn't hobbling he'll be playing. The first 3 quarters will not give them much confidence to start KC if CP is ready.
     
  6. Wahoo

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    There is nothing to be gained by starting Pennington. I think we all agree that this team will not win a championship (yet again) this year, no matter who is at qb. If you start Clemens, at the end of the season one of 2 things will be evident - either he shows that he is the next qb, or he shows that he is not the guy, and we need to get someone. Either result advances the Jets cause. Starting Pennington does neither, we know what he can do. If Mangini is as smart as everyone claims he is, I think he should see this. We will see.
     
  7. red75bronco

    red75bronco Well-Known Member

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    So when Clemens plays poorly it is because of the o-line and coaching staff, but last week when Pennington was clearly the best player on our team it was his fault we lost and only scored 14 points. Makes complete sense. I am sure the 4th quarter didn't have anything to do with Clemens having nothing to lose because we were behind 17 and Baltimore blitzing like crazy and the o-line picking it up leaving man to man coverage everywhere. Like I said there where flashes of a bright future, but we only put up 13 points and lost. I can't believe how happy everyone is we lost.

    And if you rememeber, the Jets were 7 points behind last week when Pennington went out and we had a chance is the defense could of made a stop.

    In my opinion Kellen looked lost in the more complicated game plan of the 1st three quarters and looked good when the calls were simplified in the 2 minute drill (4th quarter) and he looked better because he had time to make decisions. You cannot win consistently doing this.
     
  8. red75bronco

    red75bronco Well-Known Member

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    Pennington is Chicago would be a great fit for him and Chicago would be very good. They have a very good running game and a great defense. He would definately be playing in a Super Bowl.
     
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    That ball was thrown exactly where it needed to be thrown. Had it been thrown "on target", it would have been picked off. There was a defender breaking on the ball; Clemens had to place it over that defender, but in reach of McCareins. He did. I like Pennington, but he couldn't have made that throw without giving the defender plenty of time to get over and defend the pass.
     
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    The CS called exactly what it could call. They were going with a QB who had exactly ONE week to prepare with the 1st team. They're not going to throw the entire playbook at him in the first week with players he's not comfortable executing with. If Chad remains questionable this week, Clemens will get another week of 1st team practice. Even if Chad's able to play, Clemens will have prepped another week's worth of plays and the next time you see him on the field, that vanilla playcalling will have a little bit of chocolate in it.
     
  11. xmscott

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    Good god i hope Chad is ready for Sunday against Miami.

    If only to shut everyone up.
     
  12. JetsTillDeath

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    Its probably because every year he is healthy we go to the playoffs. Also, if Nugent was our kicker is Pitt. we may have gone to the AFC championship game, after Chad led us to victory in SD, and should have done so again in Pitt. You won't get flamed from me. Kellen looked great yesterday once he had a pocket to stand in, no doubt, but that does not warrant a new starter at the most important position on the field. I am pretty sure Chad knows this offense much better and will give us more chances to win in the long run. Kellen will have his shot, just not this year.
     
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    I do agree here, eventhough I am still a Chad supported, that pass at the end was EXACTLY where it needed to be.
     
  14. Phyr

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    Who your starting QB is not something that you want to be secret. The QB needs to be a stabilizing factor for a team.

    On a personal note, as much as I liked watched Clemens in the 4th quarter. In the first three quarters there were definitely certain times where I knew that Chad would not have made the same mistake especially dealing with pressure.
     
  15. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Where did Chad put the ball against Chicago with a wide open Coles by himself on the left side of the endzone last year?

    The only reason stone hands has an nfl job is his size. If you can't throw a ball above the defender where only stone hands can catch it you can't blame that on the QB although you can argue that throwing the ball to stone hands is a misread no matter how open he is. If you make that argument you have to also admit that any completion that Chad made to McCariens ever was a crappy read and decission.
     
  16. Attackett

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    I have been as big a Chad supporter as any on this site but I'll say Clemens showed me enough to make me think he has earned another start.
     
  17. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    No, He hasn't.

    He has shortened Chads leash however.
     
  18. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    After thinking about it last night I think the job should be Chad's. Yes KC showed signs of what made him a highly touted draft pick last year but CP hasn't done anything to lose the job. This isn't Vinny playing QB with Chad waiting in the wings. Chad has earned the job and it's his to lose not by injury.

    You have to go with the guy that gives you the best chance to win and that guy is CP. You can disagree all you want but the bottom line is as good as KC played yesterday and as much as McCariens dropped 2 TD passes we still lost. That's all that matters. Do I think KC is going to be a very good QB down the road? Of course but for now the guy that should be lining up behind center is Chad. You can ignore all the facts about Chad and say it doesn't matter that he has won a division title and 2 playoff games. You can ignore that the team is 8-20 when he doesn't start. The issue is that it doesn't send a good message to the team if Chad gets benched. KC needs to be more consistent and show that the 4th q was no fluke. Unfortunately for him it's going to have to come after Chad is hurt again or Chad doesn't deserve to be the starting QB of this team. IMO you need more than 1 good quarter to be the starting QB.
     
  19. SyracuseJet

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    Mangenious doesn't want a QB controversy.....can't blame him for what he said.
     
  20. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I didn't see last week's game as I was working. I did watch all of yesterday's game. What I saw was a team with a young QB play Hermball. The old play not to lose gameplan. Hey look I said Chad should be the starter next week in another post but until the 4th quarter I saw a team that was overmatched in every facet of the game especially coaching. Mangini may be the guy but if he continues to allow games to be called the way they were yesterday he'll find himself out of a job. The OC played chickenshit football for 3 quarters. If we came out and played the 1st 3 quarters the way we did the last 1 I think we'd be talking about a victory instead of a close call. This loss falls sqaurly on the shoulders of the defense and the coaching staff.
     

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