Cheaters never prosper

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  1. SienaSaints

    SienaSaints Well-Known Member

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    I mean come on, I mean is knowing what plays are coming really that much cheating? I mean everybody does it. Like is stealing money from someone that big of a deal. I mean everybody does it and if we get caught we will never take the blame and allow our championships to be tainted, right?
     
  2. PatsFanTX

    PatsFanTX Banned

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    What championships?
     
  3. Capt. Ace Nick

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  4. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    You still haven't answered my question

    Are you satisfied with the the Pats since 2007?

    And don't throw the Jets overall record back at me,
    because since 2007, the Jets
    have had their share of good times at the Pats' expense
    and I'm not satisfied
     
  5. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    why the fuck are there pats fans here talking shit? Better go back to patriot nation and fix the wheel on the bandwagon,people are jumping like it's the titanic.
     
  6. Roger Vick

    Roger Vick Banned

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    It is uncanny how the Pats keep losing since the NFL took their cameras away.

    I thought Bill Belichick was supposed to be some sort of football genius, no?

    How come he can't seem to win without the cameras?
     
  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Bellishit is no genius as a HC although he may well have been as a DC but he had a great QB who is now heading downhill...it's that simple.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Next season, when the 01-02 Super Bowl falls from the edge of the 10 year mark, I assume the new sample size will be 15 years?
     
  9. Roger Vick

    Roger Vick Banned

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    Nope. No "great QB", dipshit.

    He had cameras and radio waves...it's that simple.
     
  10. DAPATS

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    So according to your brilliant logic, the Pats should have won or went to every SB from 2001 to 2007, correct? Ah yes. The brilliance of a Jets fan. My, how stupidity reigns from Ganggreen. It's amazing that even though the NFL never accused the Patriots of cheating, the Ganggreen detective agency (along with other anti-Patriot fans) continue to spin the "truth"! 40+ years of losing will do that to a person I guess.
     
  11. DAPATS

    DAPATS New Member

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    HA HA....good thing no Jets fans jumped ship after this 8-8 season, right? Can you tell I'm laughing at you?
     
  12. DAPATS

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    You do realize we are laughing at ALL of Jets fans who continue to cry like little babies whenever we mention 3 SB titles. But by all means, don't let any FACTS get in your way when mentioning how the Patriots "are all cheaters"!! Boo fucking hoo. You WILL continue to look up to us and only wish your team would at least win a AFCCG. Oh how I love the fact the Pariots will always be your daddy!
     
  13. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Don't come here to take out your frustrations because you lost. And it's funny,because I will never see the Pats the way you think we do. Laugh all you want,I laugh at your asterisks,ands the fact that your fanbase is nothing but a bunch of bandwagoneers that weren't there before Brady showed up. I'm also laughing because even though i'm not a Giants fan,Theres another trophy in NY at the expense of Boston.
     
  14. displacedfan

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    Not many fans jumping ship. NY always has a group fans that sway toward the "hot" franchise, but a lot more NY'ers are diehards than Bostonions. Can't really find any on here doing that either. Not sure what you are mentioning, but every single true Boston fan acknowledges and hates the bandwagon or "pink hat" fans of boston.

    Well the facts are you guys were fined for illegally taping teams, against the rules, so cheating. Your coach was fined the highest possible amount allowed, and largest amount ever in the history of the NFL and you were docked the 31st pick of the draft. Then, you guys have not won a Super Bowl since and in the playoff games following getting caught, Tom Brady has not played up to his usual playoff abilities. His two best games were JAX and DEN and then there is a huge drop and his poor play in SD, NYG, BAL, NYJ, BAL, NYG games.

    The funniest part is that Boston has become what they hated so much. Your only argument is we have more, the same argument dumb Yankees fans would make to Red Sox fans.(I am a Yankees fan) Sports is a live in the moment type of establishment. Nobody except bandwagon Pats fans care about the 3 Super Bowls or the Jets, real fans just care about fixing their team and trying to figure out why Brady can't carry the team anymore. Sports is the reason Jeremy Lin was trending #1 on twitter on Saturday, why nobody mentions Billy Cundiff or Kyle Williams only two weeks later, why St. Louis Cardinal champion talks are nonexistent, and why most of Boston are no longer Celtics fans.

    The thing is the Pats are now like the 30 other teams, and they failed in their goal in a heartbreaking fashion. Now, come the beginning of March, the talk is no longer Super Bowl but FA, draft, and every team is 0-0 again.
     
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  15. CurbYourEnthusiasm

    CurbYourEnthusiasm Well-Known Member

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    I can take a Pats fan that has strong opinions but can back them up, but this guy gets more delusional by the second. He keeps expanding his sample size to fit his own parameters.

    Since SB of 2007,

    Jets playoff victories=4
    Pats playoff victories-2

    see how easy it is?
     
  16. GoPats

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    Yeah, I kind of figured you guys would be enjoying this. :wink:

    Regarding Spygate... so are some of you suggesting that, if the Patriots were still somehow able to steal defensive signals (and let's ignore the fact that defensive players now have speakers in their helmets), that they would have won the last two Super Bowls they played in?

    That if they knew defensive play calls, David Tyree wouldn't have caught that ball on his helmet four years ago?

    Or that Wes Welker would have made that catch Sunday night?

    Fact of the matter is, winning Super Bowls is really fucking hard. Plain and simple. You guys ought to know after seeing the Jets get so close the past couple of seasons.

    The Patriots won three Super Bowls by a combined 9 points, and had a lot of luck (Tuck Rule) along the way.

    They've also lost two by a combined 7 points, with a lot of bad luck (Tyree, Welker's drop) along the way.

    Give credit to the Giants. They made more plays and they deserved to win. Both times.
     
  17. dcm1602

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  18. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    If that's the point, then the name of this thread is completely wrong.
     
  19. GoPats

    GoPats Well-Known Member

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    Well, I agree the Patriots had a somewhat easy road to Indy... Denver had no business being in the playoffs at all, but the Ravens are always a tough team. But what does that have to do with anything? Teams don't dictate who they play.

    I don't know what's "blatantly obvious" about Brady's game having declined... he wasn't great, but I didn't think he was the reason the Patriots lost on Sunday.

    He made two pretty significant mistakes:

    The Safety - This was more of a bad play call than anything else, but as soon as Brady realized he had no one open, he should have gotten out of the pocket and thrown it away. I'm stumped as to why they call that play backed up against their own endzone like that though. Especially to open the game.

    The INT - Just underthrew it. Shit happens. Maybe if Gronkowski is 100% he's able to go up and get that ball. But the idea behind throwing to Gronk one-on-one with a linebacker is not a bad one. Just poor execution.

    Fact is, he threw for a couple of TDs and had his team ahead with less than 4:00 to go. Just like last time. He didn't throw for 400 yards and a boatload of TDs, but he was far from terrible in this game.

    And I'd still ask... what did recording defensive signals have to do with any of the recent post season losses, including the one to you guys? If the Patriots knew the Giants' defensive play calls would Tyree have dropped that ball? Would Welker have held onto the one he couldn't reel in?

    Again... sometimes you get the breaks, sometimes they go against you. But winning Super Bowls is not easy, even for the greatest teams.
     
  20. DAPATS

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    Actually, the trophy will reside in New Jersey. But hey, what's the difference, right?
     

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