I'm beginning to think that some people will just never give the Jets credit for there 9-2 record. There's always an excuse. I'd like to ask Cimini what he deems an acceptable non-miracle win. I want exact details as to what we should expect the Jets to do. I could go back and take away big plays from most wins in the NFL this season and say the game would have been a lot closer if not for this or that. All these cocksuckers will be eating shit when the Jets beat the Pats next Monday.
Great quote by Rex: "The truth of the matter is sometimes your offense needs to pick up your defense," he said. "Sometimes your defense needs to pick up your offense, and sometimes special teams got to pick up both. We've won that way. We've found different ways. That's the mark of an excellent football team." -- It's so true.
but but but the Patriots are good in all 3 phases every week...oops, I forgot their defense almost never plays well.
The win wasnt pretty but was by no means a miracle. In worried about the offense though. What I notice with this team is the points, touchdowns specifically, rarely come on well executed and long-winded drives. The jets can get first downs and move the ball between the 20s but when it comes down to the red zone the Jets have a really hard time scoring TDs. In the end, good teams find ways to win. After being almost 2/3 of the way through a season and seeing the AFCCG last year, with improvements made through FA, calling this team mediocre or a fluke is pretty foolhearted. Sure the Jets haven't looked dominant per se, but this team had the best record in the league and has two losses by a combined 10pts. Undefeated on the road counts for something as well.
You really think anyone who has managed to say these first 9 wins have been lucky would suddenly give the Jets props? "If Brady didn't throw that pick, If Sanchez didn't complete that pass, If the Jets didn't play better." whatever stupid reason someone can come up with will be used to downplay the Jets.
You know if Alphonso Smith doesn't spin around like a top on Branch and tackles or doesn't get run over like a Mack truck by Green-Ellis and Hill doesn't throw a brain dead pick - the Lions were right in it and the Patriots were real lucky to win yesterday. See how easy it is. How about this. Two weeks ago the Pats D really stepped up and stopped Peyton Manning in his tracks - great win. If it were the Jets - Boy the Jets go real lucky to win that on, Peyton was picking them apart and moving the ball at will. Inexplicably he throws a terrible ball and the Jets were lucky to come out with a win. I am sorry a 16 point win in any game in the NFL is big win. Look at the vegas odds, even when the scrubs of the league play the elite teams how often is the line 16.
Aside from all of the other solid details in this thread, this one is probably the most telling: margin of victory. In today's NFL, a 16-point win will almost never be the result of luck. Look at any double-digit spread --the favored team is always considered to be the dominant one.
The guy is an imbecile. I'd like to ask him ... exactly what phase of the game did the Bengals execute better than we did? Did they run out of the tunnel better??? What a goddamn idiot. Its amazing how week after week we're lucky enough to execute huge game-winning plays in crunch time, and these poor other teams are so unlucky not to be able to stop us.
If the Jets were, say, 7-4, you can say it's soft. But at 9-2, there's a point at which you really are what your record says you are. There are no tiebreakers for style points.
For that matter, why is almost nobody writing the article or mentioning the fact that the Jets are 9-2, and, by all their accounts, have barely played a complete game all season? When is it worth noting that this team has not played its best, and is still tied for the best record in the league? Wouldn't it be a slightly intriguing story to turn their criticisms around on them, and suggest just how good this team would be if they WERE playing their best football? Would they be 11-0? Would they be winning every game by 30? And if they do start playing like that, will they just steamroll their way through December and January? It seems all these "pundits" are only looking at one side of the coin.
Texans game? yeah, i can definitely say it was a miracle, but last night we won by 16 and the defense was excellent in the second half. Just like Rex says, when one unit slips, the other one picks them up. Imagine if we could fire on all cylinders, throughout one WHOLE game? Kinda like at Buffalo this year? That would be nice, hopefully next Monday night
Come on, he's taking liberties with all the talk of 'miracle wins' but do you guys HONESTLY think that Rich -- who's been covering the Jets 24/7 for 20 years -- really doesn't know anything about journalism or the Jets ? I don't agree with everything he writes all the time but we got some DAMN GOOD sports columnists in this town. Cimini, Cannizzaro, Myers, Serby -- they're a damn good followup to Larry Merchant, Paul Zimmerman, and the rest of the oldtimers I followed in the late 1960's and early 1970's. You want boring, non-descript writers, check out some of the papers in other cities on the Internet, which was impossible 15 years ago.
If is was any type of writer he would had seen that only 2 teams beat cinn by double so what about them other teams like colts
Never, ever compare Zimmerman with anyone around today. Journalism has changed. And its watered down and full of shit.
Cimini knows plenty about football and journalism. He's in the business of getting hits on espnnewyork.com.
