Coach After Coach

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  1. papapump

    papapump Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately it is the owner, end of story.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    No. If Bowles is dumped, you bring in someone who has a clue about the QB position. If you're going to hire another D oriented coach, may as well keep Bowles and try to make it work.

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    That list is f'n depressing. Between Hess and Johnson, there's not a dimes worth of Football IQ anywhere to be found between the two of them.
     
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    I want to like this post except I do not like this post.
     
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    I'm not the head of the Matt Patricia fanclub. And I get it, - NYJ has had a run of the last 4 head coaches coming over from being D-Coordinators. But you are certainly painting with a broad brush by eliminating half of the employed coordinators out there in the entire NFL.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Maybe it's time for the Jets to focus their attention, create an identity and a mission, and try to be good at something rather than hoping for everything and achieving nothing.

    There's absolutely merit to your argument. My point is that merit has gotten us nowhere.

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  7. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Who cares. No more defensive minds.
     
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  8. truthbtold

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    Bowles is an imbecile. Another guy who believes you can beat Tom Brady 17-16. Another guy who thinks you can punt and play defense against this QB and coach. Another guy who thinks a dump off pass to Matt Forte on 3rd and 11 with 5:00 left, and the game on the line, is a smart play.

    Where do we come up with this parade of morons? None of them can even grasp what every football fan in America knows. SCORE POINTS if you want to win!
     
  9. NYJetsO12

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    Ill take Larry David at this point, at least he is funny

    Like Ive said before the ADvisory Board of Wolf and Casserly got it half right with hiring Mac

    Bowles is a turd and a complete bust Someone must have been owed a favor to even recommend this quack
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I'd take Walt Michaels back in a heart beat and he's 87 years old
     
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    the dumpoff to Matt Forte was our Harvard QB's decision not Bowles'
     
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    WHY must we allow a coach to learn on the job or "Grow " into a head coach ??????
    I mean cant we have a freaking coach who knows what he is doing and has a clue ? This guy Bowels is in way over his head,,,the only guy out there that even intrigues me is Frank Reich,he is an offensive minded guy and he is probably the only one out there that I would take a chance on that is unproven ! Otherwise I wait to see if McCarthy is let go or I go after Gruden or Cowher or some proven guy that has done it before and for the love of god understands clock management and down and distance and utilization of timeouts !
     
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    I'm actually onboard with that. Hard to believe, but almost debatable that we could've gotten similar results with a dartboard.
     
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    If they let Bowles go, Frank Reich would be a great option. He is a coach with a history of making his QBs look better than they are. That's what this team needs more than anything, someone who knows something, anything about QBs.
     
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    These coaches come in and they learn on old washed up players to try and win now. They miss the importance of developing talent and being patient. If Bowles would have acknoweldged a rebuild then i think people and management would give him time.

    These coordinators often lack the qualities that good coaches have. They're conservative, dont take risks, and seem so focused on one side of the ball. Bowles has to learn its not just about defense, its not just about winning now. Its about sustainability too. I think kf half these coordinators turn coaching understood that, theyd be better off.

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    What do you guys think about bringing in Bill Callahan as our next HC?

    A bit of a checkered past, but he has set offensive records at every stop, had college and NFL HC experience (28-23, 17-18, respectively), and his offensive line history is undeniable. He's 60 years old, which is nothing for a HC.
     
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    Macc: "I think you should start Petty. And win some PO games for Christ sake"

    Bowles: "Are you fucking kidding me? Start a rookie AND win PO games???? If you wanted Rex Ryan, you shoulda KEPT Rex Ryan. I ain't no Rex Ryan. Deal with it".
     
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    Rex did have a good QB - Sanchez was good enough to get them to the verge of the SB, that's not chopped liver. But between the poor FO decisions, and losses of talent due to injury/retirement, and Rex's poor coaching, the team went backwards. Sanchez was no HOF'er, but he was capable, given a decent supporting cast, but that was stripped from him and he was asked to carry the whole team, which he clearly wasn't capable of. Rex was the major reason Rex didn't win.
     
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    What's really ironic, and maddening, is that Woody is fine with letting his HC "learn on the job", but that same HC won't let his young QBs have the same privilege.
     
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    Replacing Bowles may make a positive difference, but frankly I don't think so. And that's not an argument by me to keep him. What I'm saying is that simply replacing the HC hasn't ever been enough for this franchise. A HC cannot overcome a loser's mentality that starts at the top. Woody, and Hess before him, have never had winning as their sole objective, which is what successful teams have. They've always placed profits ahead of winning. You need look no further than the decision to move from Shea and agree to play in a stadium owned by your crosstown rival, and then compound that mistake by agreeing to do it again. Successful teams - in any sport - are that way because they have a single-minded focus on winning, because they understand that winning brings profits, NOT the other way around. The Jets have been doing things bass-ackwards for decades, and changing coaches hasn't changed that philosophy. Forget firing Bowles, fire Woody.
     
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