These are great stats, but it's Gaileys fault as well because he calls, HB draws, bubble screens, WR screens, inside the 10 yard line these are not plays that will get you many TDs in the RZ. While Fitz is not a good QB, Gailey is the one who continues to put Fitz in a shotgun formation and a 4 receiver set and call pass plays inside the 10 yard line. How about using a 6th olineman like the Raiders do and run the ball down their throats. It's Gailey who calls the pass plays in the RZ, he can't be given a pass just because he calls good plays between the 20s.
I normally think that it is a bad idea to fire a coach after 2 years, especially when that coach wins 10 games in the first year, but the Colts' game should cause Bowles to be fired. A coach needs to be replaced once a team starts dogging it and quits on a coach, which is what happened on Monday.
I said it before earlier in the season, if the players were executing, no one would be calling for Gailey's head. Calls are one thing, but execution is critical. He's the Jets best OC we've had in probably decades, since Charlie Weis maybe. Blame Fitzpatrick for always missing wide open receivers. That's where it starts. No chemistry, no rhythm because Fitz can't hit a receiver in stride. Over-targeting of Marshall. We do use a 6th lineman in Shell at times, but we don't have a Rob Turner like we did back in 2009-2010. Jets don't have a TE, the roster has been mismanaged. Plenty of blame to go around, but Gailey is dead last on that list.
What the OP wrote is how I usually feel about these situations too. The problem is HOW BAD Bowles has been this year. I mean terrible. Strictly from a coaching stand point. Bad. Awful. Terrible. Maccagnan can only do so much in an offseason. Bowles can only work with the pieces he has. We all understand that. However, I believe most coaches would have done a better job than he has this year. I would give him year 3 if I was Woody, but I would certainly not complain if he got fired.
This. I understood after last year that this team wasn't going to the playoffs in 2016. I just wanted to see good effort and consistency in both players and coaches this year. It hasn't happened. And leading up to the Colts game, I was fine with Bowles sticking around another year. And then came the abortion of Monday night. Bowles lost the team. That's the bottom line. And I can't think of another coaching example where a coach recovered after losing the locker room. Zip. Zilch. He's got to go. Ok so maybe you keep him another year. Well folks, it ain't going to be any better next year either. And if the fans are upset now, just wait.
Just wanted to post a possible analogous case for retaining Todd Bowles (from wikipedia): The Colts began the 1956 season with a 3–3 record, and calls for Ewbank's firing intensified – just as they had the previous year. Team owner Carroll Rosenbloom supported him, however, saying that while he had considered a coaching change in the past, Ewbank could stay with the Colts "forever – or until he fouls up". When he came to Baltimore, Ewbank had promised to create a system like Paul Brown's in Cleveland, but said he would need time to turn the team into a winner. The Colts finished 1956 with a 5–7 record. The team made a turnaround the following year, posting a 7–5 record, but still finished third in the NFL's Western Division behind the San Francisco 49ers and Detroit Lions. The team improved further in 1958, winning the Western Division with a 9–3 record and earning a spot in the NFL championship game against the New York Giants. Led by Unitas, Berry and Ameche, the team won the game 23–17 in sudden-death overtime.[32] Often referred to as "The Greatest Game Ever Played", the championship was watched by a large national audience on television and helped make football into the most popular sport in the U.S. Ewbank was named coach of the year by the Associated Press and United Press International after the season. Baltimore finished with a 9–3 record for the second year in a row in 1959 and repeated as NFL champions. Granted, Weeb had a QB. For the record, I still have not been convinced to take one side or the other regarding Bowles status for next year.
That's fair and how many times have we vented in this forum about Fitz missing open guys, underthrowing wide open receivers? Who kept trotting him out there? It was Bowles, if Bowles goes, Gailey is not going to keep his job. The only way this CS should come back next year is, if the collective of TB, Woody and Mac were on board with playing him, then I can see why TB would not be the scapegoat.
That doesn't really work in this scenario. Looks like Ewbank was making progress year to year. Bowles looks lost and the team has gotten considerably worse this year.
Totally different scenario back then. No salary cap. No guaranteed money. No snot-nosed spoiled multi-millionaires. Ownership had all the control.
Well, they kind of had to get better. They didn't exist before 1953, and they Weeb's first year was 1954. No analogy will be perfect. My point is, sometimes things look terrible, but they get better. On the other hand, there is no use in throwing good money after bad. Or in this case, throwing good seasons after bad.
I think you gotta give them one more season and see what the results are. I do want to see Gailey gone though because he is absolutely horrific.
I agree with not firing Mac but I'm getting really close to wanting Bowles gone. His teams look unprepared week in and week out. The team looked like it had no motivation on Monday night and that is unacceptable. What is it going to take to find someone who can show some fire and energy on the field when they make a play whether it is a coach or player. A defense feeds off energy and when you have a low energy coach it just doesn't work out well. I want to see our guys on the sideline fired up after making a play... I want to see our coach fired up when someone makes a mistake. I'm tired of this even-keeled garbage, and I'm afraid the players have picked it up from Bowles as well.
What has to be considered here is that "consistency" cuts multiple ways. You can be a consistent Winner, a consistent Loser or consistently Mediocre. We had an relatively easy schedule and went 10-6. We had a much harder schedule and 10-6 turned into 3-9 and counting. With a bad record, 2017 we'll probably do better depending on how much progress we make at QB no matter who's taking snaps. Every time we bottom out, we can't fire everybody BUT, we can and should make adjustments as to what is or is not working and no one should be safe. Macc needs at the minimum 1 more year to see if any of his DP's starts to excel. Bowles otoh, should be put on notice that he needs to make changes in his staffing which should produce changes in results on both sides of the ball. If the team appears flat next year like this year, he walks the plank no questions, no tears. He makes progress, he buys himself one more year. Point being the Players aren't the only ones that have to produce tangible results.
Yes, it was a different scenario. However, think about it: If Weeb gets fired, the Colts don't win those two NFL championships--one of which was "The Greatest Game Ever Played". Which means Johnny U never becomes THE QUARTERBACK. It probably means the NFL never gets to be anywhere near as big as it is now. Particularly since without Weeb getting fired when he did, Shula probably doesn't take the Colts to SBIII, and certainly nobody else takes the Jets to SBIII. Earl Morrall doesn't get embarrassed by the Jets D in that game, and Johnny U never gets to lead the Colts to SB V to get his ring. Maybe Don Shula and Earl Morrall never make it to the expansion Dolphins (without TGGEP and SB3, maybe the NFL never becomes that popular, and without their history together with the Colts, it's unlikely they end up together anyplace else). No perfect season, no Dolphins-Jets rivalry, no '82 AFCCG on the wet field, no fake spike game, no Kenny O over Dan Marino.......... See, we have to be careful with these things. You could upset all of history!
Normally I'd agree that it's too soon, but what makes this something that needs to be done is he lost the team. This team just isn't performing for him. Penalties, crap effort. The lack of a secondary adjustment. The lack of in game adjustments. Chan Gailey. Ridiculous clock management. Its tiresome watching new coaches, year after year, that have no HC experience, and are alleged "defensive experts" and somehow can't produce a great defense. Rex' defense was so hyped up by everyone, but when it came to crunch time, they always crumbled. Always. Bowles can't even create that mirage. His defense is easily one of the worst I've seen on this team in quite some time. How is it that The boys can takes Dak and get him ready in 2 weeks. BB had his 3rd string QB ready to play. Meanwhile both teams made sure the rest of the team was still intact. There's no focus. There's no fire. The O is ridiculously predictable, the D is ridiculously bad. I'm just not sure how you can sit there and defend all that.
Not to mention, this team is anything BUT "competitive" Seriously, isn't anyone sick of defensive coaches with no HC experience, that coupled with recent GMs, pick defense every first round? I mean, where was the hope at the QB position the past few years? Petty? Hackenburg? It makes me sick they picked Hack. Really, what were they looking at that said "hey we can put a competitive product on the field while we wait years for Hack"...it's pie in the fucking sky. Hack isn't shit. Let alone second round shit. It's a joke man. Really, the more ya think about it, the more absurd it all is. Woody has a knack. It's finding the cheapest option available.
