I've always wondered whether Tom Moore was a great offensive mind or whether he was a product of having Peyton Manning as his quarterback? How often did Manning audible and how much of that was Peyton's own doing?
I don't know why everyone is so surprised, there was a big press conference and everything. Here's the picture of Brian Schottenheimer & Woody Johnson at the event:
Crikey Tom Moore is like 73 years old. That's fine for a guy who is reviewing film but that's a little ancient for a NFL OC.
This is perhaps the dumbest post I have ever seen, and that is truly saying something. Offensive formations and playcalling have absolutely NOTHING to do with execution. Smart fans aren't calling for Shottenheimer to be fired because of the offensive results - they are calling for him to be fired because of his worthlessness. 3rd down plays designed to be short of the sticks, Routes designed to put all the receivers in the same area of the field, completely unneeded attempted trickery that end up with plays that fool the Jets more then the defense, running when they should be passing, passing when they should be running, ridiculously predictable play calling - all of these have nothing to do with execution and the complete failure of the OC to do his job well.
Rest assured if the Jets fail to make the playoffs/the offense continues to be our downfall, Schotty will NOT be the Jets OC next season, contract extension or not. Damn, if that's not wishful thinking... I don't know what is.
The fact that we've had numerous offensive players calling out the schemes, be it subtle or otherwise, is troubling to start.
The offense didn't do shit to warrant that extension. Especially considering the playcalling against shittsburgh
And the offense constantly was unprepared to play in the 1st half, and was never even that good last year. Also, if we are being honest, the defense got us to the AFCCG, and when they failed (and obviously Sanchez scored points for the other team), the ride ended. He never deserved a 2nd season here, and now has gotten 6, and will probably get a 7th. If any one of us sucked at our jobs and/or careers as much as Schotty sucks at his, we would never, ever have gotten 6 years to keep doing the job. But logic doesn't apply when it comes to the Jets, apparently.
It's gotta suck to be our D. They're constantly on the field because we can barely sustain drives. I wonder where we would rank if these guys could get a break once in a while.
My guess is that they would look a lot like the Bears of the last 2 years. That team had no offense for years, and now with Cutler, the defense knows they dont have to win every game by themselves because they might actually get some help from the qb (well, sometimes when it comes to Cutler) and the offense..
It's obvious at this point that somebody in the Jets organization thinks that Schotty is a brilliant offensive mind, despite all the evidence to the contrary. If they're right they're going to reap the rewards of that opinion backed by their action. If they're wrong they're going to experience the dark side of the equation as the "Schotty Sucks!" chants begin at which point what they believe isn't going to mean anything and they'll basically have humiliated a friend in the process as well as casting doubt on their own ability to discern talent. I guess we'll just see how this plays out now as the hopeful beneficiaries of their wisdom and the possible victims of their blindspot.
How long did Cimini know this? AND, why is it coming out now? Stuff like this makes me wish the the League had mandatory drug testing......for front offices.
I don't understand what the hand-wringing is about. Let's say you have a position to fill where there are extremely few qualified, proven candidates available any given year; where a new hiring is almost always disruptive and very often a leap of faith; where your competition can refuse their better employees to even interview with you; where you can fire your current employee whenever you like. Now let's say your current employee isn't doing a very good job, but has been part of one of the most successful periods your company has ever had, and is ready to sign an extension. What exactly do you lose by making sure you have someone signed for next year? Now maybe the Jets do have a sinister plan to let Schottenheimer destroy our season, warp Mark's development, buttrape all of the employees, burn down Florham Park with staff and players in it, then dance naked on their charred corpses singing hallelujah. Maybe nobody in the organization, Rex included, knows anything about football, or more than the nattering ninnies of negativity that have been emoting here and elsewhere recently (there's a poll on JI that shows a majority of members prefer the Jets didn't make the playoffs if it meant they'd get rid of the OC). Maybe Tanny and Rex are so blinded by personal loyalty that they'd prefer to lose their jobs rather than hurt their friend's feelings. Or maybe they think they could do worse, and will hold onto Schotty until a clear upgrade is available.
Sometimes, not every play call is a good one but more often than not it's the execution not the playcall. This pretty much sums it up(Pettine got an extension too). If they don't feel he has done the job or that they can do better this extension will not prevent them from making a move. What is dumb is for fans to see one clip posted in thos thread and think every playcall is designed to run short of the first down line. of course there are routes designed to run short of the marker and for the player to catch and run for the 1st down but to act like on every 3rd and medium all receivers run short is as asainine as it gets. You are a typical fan that whines about the OC when things don't go well for the OC- it happens everywhere. That is what typical fans do. Our D is good not great, how did we get to 2 title games w/ a rookie and 2nd yr QB if our O sucked? WRs complaining they aren't getting the ball? Shocking! The only valid complaint was from holmes about the OL. Our troubles start and end up front, when they have played well we have had success, when they haven't we have struggled. It's as simple as that. The O only kep us in that game and gave us a chance as our D was getting steamrolled. It's sucks when fans posts BS and then it spreads. I constantly hear the excuses fro the co tinued late game failures of our D. Everyone says it's b/c they are tired b/c the O can't stay on the field. The average TOP for the seasons is: NYJ 30:26 Opps 29:33 This means on average we have the ball MORE than the opponent. The last 2 weeks we had a huge TOPe dge in the 1st half vs. NE then the "tired" D allowed NE to go 80 yds in a minute to end the 1st half and change that game(not to mention when we got it w/in a TD in the 4th qtr the D allowed NE to go right in for another TD) and last week we had a significant TOP edge on denver before the D choked yet again.
This argument you throw around is so skewed it's laughable. The time of possession only counts the time which goes off the clock. Our offense is a run first offense, so the ball carrier is almost always tackled in the field of play and the clock keeps ticking. Then, for example, New England's offense which is a definite pass first offense, so they throw more incompletions than us and also have a more bigger chance of the ball carrier to run out of bounds, which stop the clock. Of course the offense which keeps the clock running more, than the one which has it stopped more, is goinna have a larger TOP.
2011 NY Jets: pass attempts: 338 rush attempts: 269 Please explain how we have controlled the clock b/c we are a run first offense even though we have passed 69 more times and our top 2 RBs average 3.8 YPC? Oh and NE throws a ton more but many of their pass plays are an extension of their rushing attack so they control the clock the air. Your post is asinine from start to finish.
