No one is free of blame. No one. Well, Clemens is, because he didn't play. But anyway. Tanny has made some serious miscalculations. The biggest of which being the Kendall situation. (And I admit I agreed with Tanny when the situation was going on. But for a million bucks, that we didn't spend anyway, we crapped out our line.) Mangini and Schotty should be smart enough to dump Chad, but so far, they aren't. They get blame. Sutton is garbage. Nothing else to say about him. The lines on both sides of the ball are terrible. No time on offense, and no push on defense. Chad can't throw 20 yards on a fly without 3 defenders coming across the field to get in position to pick it off. Nooge blew it in a huge situation. There's blame to go all the way around, including the coaching staff. My only issue was that blaming the coaching staff completely for this loss was ridiculous.
If the former regime was still here we'd see all the blame that's going to Chad and the D shifted to the CS. It's curious why the CS is getting so little blame?
The CS is getting tons of blame if you would only look. Why they aren't getting more blame is many on this board understand what the CS was left with.
Actually I give Herm credit for unloading Green, he might have unloaded Chad as well. While I thought Herm was a terrible coach I gave him big props for the smart way he worked himself out of here when he realized the team was done.
To a point. But not Blitzing....and then Blitzing....and then Blitzing some more on Defense, is beyond mind boggling. THe one advantage our defense has against their offensive line is speed. Their bigger we're faster... the DC showed ZERO imagination, sunday.
Of course now they wre left w/ nothing:breakdance: They didn't mind last year and they supposedly upgradd through FA and the draft. They've had 2 drafts and 2 FA periods to improve and to improve on a team that was a kick away fromt he title game 1 year prior to when they arrived. The CS is not getting blamed anywhere near as much as the previous regime, if herm was still here all your irrational Chad posts would be about Herm.
I'm blaming them and I agree with you about the two drafts. If you look at what the needs are on this team it will take at least 4 more drafts to get the positions filled. As they refuse to participate in FA what does that say? People they drafted last year will be gone and they still won't be done "rebuilding". Throw in their "you have to be a choirboy mindset" and it's a disaster in the making.
Herm took over a very good team that you argue wasn't good because they didn't make the playoffs a couple of years prior to him coming. Where you and I disagree about the previous team is I felt the problem was at QB. Vinny clearly was not the same guy after the injury and he was old with very slow reflexes and no movement at all even though he still could throw a pretty ball. Now Herm did take over a team with a 1st round franchise QB on the team and a HOF running back a solid OL and DL and a good blend of young talent and veteran leadership all over the team. That QB also had time to develop before he got here and he was a very good QB. Unfortunately Herm left the team with that same QB pretty much damaged goods they blew the contract negiotations with our best Defensive player Aberaham, they let KMak and Becht walk, they had no plan to replace a washed up Fabinni and they totally blew the negiotations with Ferguson leaving a huge hole in the DL. The reason Herm left was he knew the team was done and actively sought another job while under contract. The team was left an outright mess and Mangini with very little experience stabilized things and put a rebuilding plan into effect with his first off season. I have no doubt this is a major rebuild that will take 3 to 5 years and have been consistent in saying so.
I think Herm had two moments as Jet's coach that just stand out: the "you play to win the game" rant which clearly lifted the Jets, and as you point out the really quick exit when he suddenly realized he had no offensive line and his QB and HB's were probably done.
Here's the biggest reason to fault the coaching staff: Chad is still hurt and he's still playing. I've been saying since Sunday that I thought Chad's throwing motion looked like it was affected by either the ankle or some undisclosed shoulder problem. Jets Extra Point yesterday confirmed that he's still receiving treatment and that it's clearly still affecting him. Why in the world would you play a guy hurt when you can see that it's affecting his game? My guess is they still don't have a system in place for Kellen to succeed. That's just unacceptable.
there is no system designed for particular qb's he must learn the playbook. they might let him favor packages, but not sit down and create something for a 2nd year qb while chad completes a high percentage. maybe kellens leg (broken in college) still bothers him, maybe there is a reason chad plays and clemens doesnt. that reason is ........chad still gives us the best chance.
He looked fine against the Dolphins. The only thing this team does consistently is preach consistency.
The package that Chad runs will not work for most QB's. It requires pinpoint accuracy in a very limited range. It's also a big losing package against anybody who has a defense capable of stopping a drive given 4 sets of downs to stop it on. The Jets are going to have to open up the field for Clemens if he's going to succeed because he's not going to be able to flip pennies into the coke bottle the way Chad can. Open it up downfield and 60% completions will be fine.
give chad randy moss type receiver instead of coles and he goes down field alot more. we cant stretch the field with mccariens dropping tds, and coles and cotch being covered with safety help. why throw it, regardless whos behind center? wheres the run game we gave a 2nd round pick for? stuck behind a line in worse shape than last years over a million dollar raise. any up grade in line help would have been appreciated by chad or clemens.
mangini has schott bottled up because of his lacking football philosophy, and shitty defense.maybe the staff would rather see clemens sit in safety rather than get him killed behind crappy o-line. dink and dunk is the only way with no run and garbage line. dont get me wrong i love the jets and have since 80. this present leadership is starting to show its suckiness. only 2 years into it.
I think Chad checks down on 80% of the passing plays at this point. Seriously, I think he rarely goes to his first option because it's early in the progression and the first option has not gotten wide open yet. I don't think Chad trusts his arm to deliver a ball to even a loosely covered defender at this point and I think the INT's the last couple of years when Chad has had to throw to these guys now and then backs him up on his point of view. The only place on the field where I think Chad consistently tries to hit his first and second options is inside the 10 yard line and that's because those are strict timing plays thrown to a spot where nobody but the receiver can catch them.
They didn't blow negotiations w/ Abe, they did the right thing by not giving him a long term deal b/c he was always hurt. The current regime had a chance to sign him and they passed. Th team Herm inherted was older and expensive inclduing a few deals Parcels gave to his favorites on the way out the door so it killed our cap and we were older. Bradway had to re-tool after 2001 and got lucky b/c of the expansion draft to help us get under the cap. 1998 was 3 years earlier from the time Herm took over and it was a eam that choked away season late in both '99(yes they di losing at Indy then getting crushed by a mediocre giant team, if they won one of those games they make the playoffs) and 2000 so not only did Herm have to deal w/ an older team that they knew wouldn't be together long b/c of the cap but he had to deal w/ the mental problems of blowing seasons. Herm didn't leave b/c he knew the team was done b/c he went to KC where he was going to undergo a rebuilding mode there as well. Herm knew '05 was more b/c of injuries than lack of talent. he went to a KC team that has less talent than we do and a KC team that had been to 1 postseason in 8 years w/ zero postseason wins. There is no such thing as a 3-5 year rebuilding proces anymore, we have the alent to win another 10 games this year and stay competitive until we put can put more pieces in place over the next few years but there's no excuse for us being 1-3 right now w/ the talent we have/had.
