We can get Lawrence and build around him. He'll have Becton, Mims, and Crowder. If Douglas acquires another RB, WR, and OL in the offseason, it'll be more than what Sam got.
they won't all be studs. the cap will be back up by then after the 5 year covid plan. we don't have anyone else we are paying.
no they don't. that was the point. more often then not the best QB from every class is not the 1st one taken. it's less then 50% over the past 20 years
No, the consensus did not say that Trubisky was the best. We'd have been no better off if we had traded down from #6 and taken Jackson. You obviously have forgotten that it would have been Mac making the trade down and then drafting the players, not Douglas. Mac would have probably traded down for a solitary 3rd or 4th round pick, and then taken some bust DL with that pick and, Jackson would have been killed behind our OL. So we'd have nothing to show for having the #6 pick in the draft except our 3 - 2nd round picks, and most likely, Mac would have whiffed on all three of those as well. We do not hear that a player, especially a QB, is a generational player that often. Quit making shit up.
And that move would be a career ender. You'd be laughed out of the NFL even if you hit on all of your other picks, (which would be unlikely), and you still wouldn't have a QB worth a damn.
Good post. I would hasten to add that no SB was ever won by a GM taking the "safe" route or play. It takes risk to become great.
If the Jets only win 4 games next season, then either we didn't get Lawrence, Becton and Mims miss the entire season, the Johnsons insist on making the hire and hire the wrong HC, or Douglas fails to sign anyone decent in FA, and has a mediocre draft.
Neither Sam nor Tua were considered generational talents. GTFO with that nonsense! Leaf was not considered generational, either. Put the crack pipe down.
If the Bills or another team who held the 2017 #10 pick could go back in time....and then know what Mahomes would turn into....you're saying they'd trade Mahomes/#10 for that haul ? If Mahomes had been picked #1 or you would go back in time and pick him #1....you wouldn't trade him for that haul. He's worth MORE.
The Chargers did NOT get that kind of package. They swapped the #1 and #4 overall picks in 2004.....3rd rounder in 2004......and 2005's 1st and 5th Rounder. A nice haul....a STEEP haul considering that most people were going round-and-round on Eli, Ben, and Rivers and none REALLY stood out for sure. If Eli Manning's name had been Eli Rosenbaum, there were questions about whether he'd be going Top 5 or Top 25. Remember...we're assuming Trevor Lawrence is going to be SPECTACULAR with little downside risk. We're assuming his "bad" games will be with QB ratings in the 70-80 rating instead of the 20-40 rating area. It's his very high FLOOR that is what you like, not that he's going to have lots of games with a QB rating over 140 (though he probably will).
Tua, Sam, and Ryan Leaf (!!!) were NEVER generational talents. They were all potential #1 overall picks. NOBODY said ANY of them were in the same breath as Elway or Peyton or even Andrew Luck. Trevor Lawrence scores higher than Peyton because even Peyton (less so than Eli) had questions about whether he was being "overgraded" because his last name was Manning. And Peyton (though he didn't play on as good a team as TL does at Clemson) NEVER had the stats that Lawrence has had. Nor the deep runs for a national championship.
Or DeBlassio and Murphy use MetLife as a holding station for Covid-19 positive folks and they infect all our team....... Or George Costanza's theory about a plane eventually going down with a whole team finally happens.
Bethard wanted to NOT draft Leaf when he got the psych review on him. But he had already made the trade and he and Spanos decided to go ahead anyway.
I think 4 wins would be great for next yr, yes we will have Trevor Lawrence. Even if Becton and Mims are healthy(which based on this yr you would think both will end up playing 13 games each). We are bringing in so many different coaches, players etc. All of these guys learning new systems. You can not expect it all to work right away. Plus we are playing in a very tough division. 4 wins next yr
If we get Trevor Lawrence, I expect we'll zoom up to 8-8....unless we lose a bunch of games by a thin hair via shootouts.....in which case we might only win 6 games. Seriousley, I wouldn't be shocked if we go 9-7 or 10-6. You turn a few early-season losses into wins, it can springboard and jumpstart your team. There's always 1 or 2 "surprise" teams -- why not a team that added the best QB prospect in decades.....high draft picks......quality FA's...and good coaching ?
This is the Perfect Storm for Joe Douglas. Not only will he lay claim to the #1 overall pick, there's actually a player sitting there that at least 1/3 of the entire league would KILL to draft. Let the bidding begin. Joe SHOULD be able to parley that pick into the equivalent of 5 first round draft picks, spread out over 2-3 years. Joe ABSOLUTELY has to take this and never look back. Swap out a generational QB for 2-3 generational Drafts b2b2b. Build perhaps the most powerful, talented top to bottom team ever built through the draft. I know, I know. "But Trevor is 'generational' which means he's 10-15% better than the next guy". That's great, but when your entire team is 50% better than the next team, it's game on son. Between the Trevor trade, Jamal trade, Sam trade, and our own picks JoeD will OWN....listen to me.....JOE DOUGLAS WILL FUCKING OWN the next 3 drafts. Dominant pass rusher? Check. Dominant TE? check. WR#1? Revis Jr? Jamal Jr? check check check. Best RT, best guards, and center? check check check. Heck, throw in the nations top kicker. check. Maybe even trade a late 5th to Dallas for their Cheer squad. And while he has ALL THAT DRAFT AMMO, he can scope out and draft the next Deshawn Watson, or Russel Wilson, Patrick Mahomes or even the next Lamar Jackson some where in the middle of the 1st or 2nd rounds. Think about it: A TRULY stacked team like no one has seen in a long, long time, both sides of the ball, with DAWGS, AND a good to great QB on his 5 yr rookie deal. HOT DAMN!!!!! SIGN ME UP!!!! No team has EVER won 5 rings in a row, starting with their QBs rookie season. Let's do it!
Let's lose the next 3 games first. BTW, I was thinking of calling into the MICHAEL KAY SHOW....they think we're enjoying rooting against the Jets. Don LeGreca and Peter R. don't understand the pressure we are under. 1 win and we screw it up unless Jax wins another game. We all have mixed feelings and the pressure we feel with no margin of error to tie Jax is unlike anything I've felt since we went to back-to-back AFCCG's.
