I don't know how any Mets fan can hate Bonds as a person more then Clemens after the 2000 WS. Bonds is an asshole, but who cares? Clemens is a roid raging psychopath who's cheating directly affected the team you root for in the World Series.
It is hypocritical, and that's exactly what I'm saying. The thing is, I'm not cheering Clemens, at all. I'm simply saying I'm giving him a bit more rope to see if he hangs himself with it, because I'd like to find out that he's actually innocent, even though I don't believe he is. The reason I give him more "benefit of the doubt" is because he was a Yankee.
I have to agree with you. I really do think he did them though, but McNamee is such a pussy that I'm scared he'll give into Clemens whether he's telling the truth or not. Clemens has the massive legal power and the money to push it around, and I'd imagine that McNamee doesn't have a very good chance in Congress and court.
I don't really think that Congress is as much of a problem for whoever it is that is telling the truth - if that's McNamee, it will cost him absolutely nothing to simply answer every question truthfully that he can. Congress now planning on doing its own investigation is only good for him (again, assuming he's telling the truth), since it won't cost him a dime, and raises the ante considerably for Clemens. Of course, if McNamee lied to Mitchell he is totally screwed no matter what, since his deal to avoid jail time on the steroids felonies was that he had to tell the truth. If he lied to Mitchell and now testifies to Congress that he lied to Mitchell, he goes to jail; if Congress finds out he lied to Mitchell in its own investigation he goes to jail; if he lied to Mitchell, and now tells the same lies to Congress, and that can be shown, he goes to jail twice.
I Must Respond(the Roger Clemens edition) http://www.rogerclemensreport.com/reports/ClemensReport.pdf I don't have the time or inclination to read through 50 pages of this nonsense but maybe someone will and can comment on it. All I know is that this is getting really bizzare now.
FYI, four statisticians did read it and comment on it in an op/ed in the Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/sports/baseball/10score.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin Basically, they said that Roger's career trajectory is very unusual compared to that of the vast majority of other pitchers with long careers. That doesn't prove anything by itself, of course. I know two of the authors (Bradlow and Jensen), and they're certainly more than competent to do this sort of analysis.
I hate to admit it, but I think he did. I also believe that the Mitchell report was very limited to the number of players it mentioned. I feel there are far more players on all teams that either were or still taking some performance enhancement drugs.
McNamee was telling the truth about Pettitte. Having rolled over on one high profile name, he really had nothing much more to gain by giving up Clemens. Its really hard to see why he'd go out of his way to lie about it. Having said that, the physical evidence he just turned over is pretty suspicious.
Id say when half your teammates, your best friend and even your WIFE are implicated for steroids theres a good chance you took part yourself. On that note, I also feel that the evidence is suspicious and he most likely wont be charged.
You want to be more specific. Or are you just throwing some Yankee shit out there hoping something sticks?
I hate to be disrespectful, but are you that naive to think that no Mets players ever used performance enhancing drugs. In this day and age when it comes to that stuff you can't doubt or overlook anyone from having used that stuff.
JJ is naive enough to believe that all of the Mets, past, present and future are perfect little angels.
Well, we all know Gooden and Strawberry didn't start hitting women and doing drugs until they were on the Yankees, right? Right?
ESPN.com is running a poll on who do you believe. McNamee is up 68-32, and every state is in his favor.
I heard Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus on the radio today. He said something I found very interesting. He said that he doubted that many, if any, MLB players were using steroids or HGH anymore. I almost choked on my tongue. But then, he went on to say that performance enhancers have evolved again. The new thing is insulin, and it's rampant. Has the same, or better, effect as HGH (his words), it's more stable than HGH (HGH can spoil when out of refrigeration for 10 minutes), easier and cheaper to acquire than HGH, and just as untraceable. The moral of the story is that the Mitchel Report hasn't, nor will it, do a damn thing to affect change.
