I believe the only category Sanchez has ever been "top 10" in since joining the NFL is in fumbles and interceptions. I could be wrong, feel free to respond with authentic facts to support your claim. I looked it up, and at ESPN back in 2010 he's down there at #27 out of 31 listed. ... which was actually an improvement over his #28 ranking in his rookie year. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/year/2010
don't worry about fantasy stats, he was a top 10 type QB by making winning plays all season. he was vital to us winning 11 games and getting back to the playoffs. watch games, don't just look at stat sheets.
no one other than you is aware of this ranking you speak of. The way rankings and ratings are compiled are, you first start out by comparing the performance of the player at the same position and how well they do the same things. By your system, Sanchez was not just top 10, he was the NUMBER 1 QB...... ON THE Jets!!!!
average fans just follow rankings, others actually watch and judge based off what they see. if a guy throws 2 TDs in garbage time does it mean anything? if a guy fails in big spots do his #s mean anything? Tell me the QBs better than him in 2010? and give me reasons.
you use stats when it suits your argument though. what stats justifies your argument that he was a 'top 10 QB' these were the top 10 QB's in 2010 (in any order) 1. Brady 2. Rodgers 3. Brees 4. P Manning 5. Rivers 6. Roethlisberger 7. E Manning 8. Vick 9. Romo 10. Ryan so who are you bumping out of that top 10, and keep in mind that this is 2010 not present day.
The ratings and rankings are for the entire 16 game season. That eliminates all the abnormalities and anomalies from the record. Over the 16 game regular season, when compared to the other QB's in the NFL, doing the same things that QB's do on the football field, Mark Sanchez tallied up 27th out of 31(passer rating). The list of QB's better than him is too lengthy to mention, but some noteworthy QB's who finished ahead of him from the list were, Jon Kitna, Mat Cassel, Ryan Ftizpatrick. In trying to help your argument along, I did find one category in which Sanchez was top 10. He was number 9 in attempts, which actually pushed him down to 29 in completion percentage. I am impressed though with your dedication and commitment to Sanchez. Given the play we've seen from other QB's drafted since we got him, and that doesn't include the top draft picks of Luck and RGIII. .....actually, in thinking about your methods more, the only thing that would make Sanchez worth more than garbage, is if the Jets had won the SB at least once with him starting the game. Then, we could say, his numbers don't reflect his contributions, or value. But, playing in 2 AFCCG which we lost, only exposes the fact that his numbers as a QB are horrible.
actually I never use just #s. I will give you Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton, Ben, Vick, Ryan. These are all based on reg season obviously b/c only Ben and Rodgers were better in postseason. Rivers had nice #s, any average fan can look at them and say he had a great year. 4700 yds, 30 TDs, 13 INTs but in a weak division w/ the #1 ranked D he couldn't even lead SD to postseason. in week 16 against a 3 win team he was awful in a loss that would cost them the playoffs. Eli? Eli? ELI? Threw TWENTY FIVE interceptions, TWENTY FIVE! also played in weak division. In biggest game of year(a week after their choke against Philly where he was given great FP and plenty of time to win it after philly tied it) he threw 4 INts in a crushing loss at GB. Eli was horrible in 2010. Romo played 6 games, he was 1-5 as a starter but yeah he was much better than Mark:rofl:
No it doesn't, it doesn't tell you when those #s were accumulated. Guys like Rivers are grat in blowout games, certain guys can't play in big spots and get all their #s early in gams or in blowout games. I will take a bad #s game w/ a guy making plays to win over a great #s game w/ a guy not making plays to win.
well, despite all the evidence, it seems that you have a much keener eye for talent than all the rest of us including the expert analyst who all conclude that Sanchez is garbage. Hopefully we've seen the last of him around here, and if we have. I will bet you almost anything that he will not be swooped up by another franchise anytime soon. Unless they are ravaged by injuries. If we do hang onto him, then maybe he will do the unexpected and have a pro bowl year while leading the Jets to a SB victory. ... BTW.. do you have any Sanchez related tattoos ?? just wondering.
the easiest and laziest thing to do is evaluate all on what happened most recently. a year ago Eli is elite was all the rage now he has led his team to mising the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years. We live in a what have you done for me lately society and most people forget all except what has most recently happened. I don't live like that, it's laziness. Was Sanchez awful this year? absolutely, he couldn't have been much worse. Does that mean he can't play in this league? of course not as he has alreayd proven a team can win big with him. I understand the circumstances around him as well. The average fan or media member that lives in today only doesn't seem to understand that. when we win a few games in a row I'm not shouting Super Bowl, when we lose a few I'm not shouting to fire everyone. That makes me an oddball amoing fans- an oddball in a good way.
what you might not also be willing to admit is that Sanchez, for whatever success he has had. Has to be on a good to great team to be successful. That is not going to be sustainable in the NFL. A NFL QB, needs to be able to win games on his own. Take his team on his back when they are behind and rally them to victory. Sanchez is never going to be that guy consistently. Therefore, what matters is not only how horrible he was this year, but his entire career numbers prove that he will be average when he is at his all time best. And that did not win us anything of value to the team or fan base. He has had 4 years to show progress, and he has shown nothing more than he is worst than ever.
show me the QBs that are winning w/ the talent mark had to work w/? do we forget he was 3-1 w/ Chansi Stuckey as a starting WR in 2009?
In his best year, your glory year of 2010 here are the meaningless statistics for Mark Sanchez when the Jets were playing from behind. take a look at the from behind and the tied statistics for the entire regular season. This was his best year. Of course, it also shows his average, pedestrian numbers of when he was ahead. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9269/situational it seems the site is not updating to the 2010 year, only the 2012 numbers keep coming up, nevermind. It's lunchtime Sanchez is all that. Go Jets.
watch the games please. stop sending me blind stats, tell me about his individual games. discuss what he did to help his team win or lose.
right, no more stats from me. You are above that. When Sanchez's tenure with the Jets comes to an end, we will see how many learned GM's scramble to sign him. After all, they must be watching the games like yourself instead of just looking at blind stats. When that day comes, you can go all LL Cool J on my Kool Moe D ass.
instead of all that just tell me you don't know what you are watching and move on. I guarantee you he'd be scooped up in a second by a team that thinks they can rehab him back into a quality starter. People that know this game know he is broken right now but know he can be fixed and understand the circumstances around the 2012 season.
