ESPN's take on the Jets

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  1. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I have ever been impressed by anything I read on ESPN
     
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  2. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    Easy to make those statements and not actually validate any of them.
     
  3. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    ESPN is full of clowns. They didn't do there research obviously considering Idzik actually played and was involved with personnel. It takes more than 1.5 seasons to evaluate a GM. There's a reason we're sitting on a lot of cap space.
     
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    Idzik is doing right now what most other teams don't have the balls to do. In the NFL there are generally 3 groups of teams.

    - Teams that are consistently good
    - Teams that are consistently bad
    - Teams that are consistently mediocre.

    The Jets are in that 3rd category, just like the Bills, Dolphins, Cowboys, and Bears, and the problem with that is you are never too bad to have a franchise changing draft pick, and you most likely don't have any money to spend on free agents. Idzik intentionally gave the Jets little to work with this year so they could essentially bank the extra $$$ for the future, as well as making sure they get a Top 10 pick.

    If we sign Desean Jackson and Revis this year, what really happens? Maybe 9-7. Maybe a Wild-Card spot. Zero chance at a Super Bowl. Idzik is trying to build a Super Bowl team, not a playoff team. In the mean time it fucking sucks to watch though.
     
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  5. Superhippy

    Superhippy Well-Known Member

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    Idzik has missed on some players but I don't think we can just ignore the good players he has brought in either.

    - Richardson - Defensive Player of the Year.
    - Amaro - He will be a Top 5 TE. No doubt in my mind, he is already showing the signs.
    - Giocomini - Solid tackle for a great price.
    - Ivory - Best RB on the roster.
    - Decker - Easily worth the money. By the end of the year he will have about 900 yards and 8 or 9 TD's. What the hell else could you want for what we payed him.
    - Aboushi - Looked good out there today and may become our next starting guard, which would be massive for a team that needs 2.

    Idzik has had his stinkers too like Saunders and Milliner, but for the most part I don't think he's really done that bad. We could be the Bucs who payed a backup defensive end like Michael Johnson 10 million a year, and a mediocre corner like Verner 7 million a year.
     
  6. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    Idzik is going to need the cap space, because it's going to cost a boatload of money to have ANY free agent to want to play for the Jets. Especially after this year.
     
  7. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    no it wont - players just care about getting paid - they don't care how successful the team is or otherwise - if your team is located somewhere that's a bit grim you might have to pay a bit more but the idea we would need to pay more to get players to come to NY just isn't realistic.
     
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  8. Jeremy2020

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    He handled contracts. He didn't make the decisions.
     
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  9. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    Rex had his team fired up today against the Broncos, and we almost upset them. Despite the fact that the Broncos roster is miles ahead of ours....that alone shows how great a HC Rex is. The only people who think Rex should be fired are disgruntled Jets fans, who would want Peyton Manning and JJ Watt cut if they were Jets this season.
     
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  10. displacedfan

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    If the Jets don't make the playoffs this year, that's 4 straight years without playoffs. Probbaly 4 straight years without a winning season. What do you do as an owner/GM? There will be outside pressure to fire Rex. Will see what happens, but I could see Woody letting him go and trying to start fresh with an offensive guy
     
  11. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Another loss is exactly that. There are no good losses. The only people who think Rex should be retained are those that fear change and are comfortable with the status quo. This team is stale both on offense and on defense. We've become predictable on both sides of the ball. This team needs a new direction and a new vision. Rex is Rex. He's a Ryan and that means a powerful defense supporting a mediocre to barely sufficient offense. If Rex was coaching the 2000 Ravens, he'd win the SB and go 16-0 in the process but the game has changed and unfortunately, has bypassed Rex's vision of what an NFL offense should be.

    Rex will sit in the big chair again one day but for now, he needs to either go into the broadcast booth or back to being a DC because without a stacked roster, he's not gonna take any team to the SB. He's too stubborn and too limited in his vision in this modern era of NFL football.
     
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    Every year I fall for the dam trick... Why oh why can I fall for the same old Jets.
     
  13. 2insane

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    It looks like Rex benefited from two things. The talent EM picked and a new scheme. The talent left. The NFL adapted to the scheme.
     
  14. JetsFan

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    First, Rex is not a good coach and the team has been getting worse every year he has been here. Rex is horrible at judging talent and scouting players.

    Second, to prove the first statement we only have to look to see the Jets had better overall talent on the roster when he got here. After losing all the players Rex did not daft and enduring six horrible years of him drafting, we have a 4-12 team if we are lucky. Drafting players is a part of being a coach.

    Rex has ignored the offense, which is obvious be using six straight 1st round picks on the defense. Three of the pick were spent on the secondary which is the worst it has ever been.
     
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  15. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Rex is not the GM. Repeat, Rex is not the GM. If he is the GM, that falls on Tanny and Idzik and Johnson for not using the GM to GM.
     
  16. slimjasi

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    He'll have DC offers coming out of his ass, but I'm not so sure he'll be getting another head coaching job right away. Two reasons:

    1) Recently, the trend in the NFL has been to hire young, first-time Head coaches who have established themselves as bright, innovative coordinators. Generally, retreads who have had success will garner more money and more organizational authority (Something a lot of owners/GMs in recent years have opted against)

    2) Despite the plethora of excuses made for Rex on this board, he has been a losing coach for a while now. He's had 8 three game losing streaks, and now, 1 five game losing streak in less than 6 full seasons as head coach. This season will almost assuredly be his fourth straight without a winning record and without a playoff appearance. No matter how you slice it . . . that's a lot of losing.
     
  17. Idzik may prove to be a good GM or he may prove to be a bad GM..but this talk of him lacking personnel experience is just completely off base. He has a very well rounded resume dipping his head in almost all facets of NFL front office work including scouting. Why won't this bad rumor just die..it doesn't take more than a quick look at the guy's resume to figure it out.
     
  18. SouthBayJetsfan4life

    SouthBayJetsfan4life Well-Known Member

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    I agree 100 percent with the ESPN guys!
     
  19. SouthBayJetsfan4life

    SouthBayJetsfan4life Well-Known Member

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    Um...I think his work with the Jets speaks for itself.
     
  20. So b/c the team hasn't lived up to expectations suddenly things just magically disappear from Idzik's background?

    Does this theory work the other way too? Say Idzik builds a super bowl roster in the next 3 years..does he suddenly add things like "accomplished fighter pilot" to his accomplishments?
     

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