Oh my god. Even after the last 4-5 weeks, I should have guessed it would take only one loss for silly season to start all over again here.
Favre is like the cool dad you always wanted or something, you just have a thing for him, we all know that. I don't have a thing for Favre, I have a thing for the Jets. In his glory years mobility was a big part of Favre's game. He played option QB in HS and was recruited to Southern Miss as a DB. When he was young the scrambling and shovel passes were a big part of his game, he doesn't do that now. He doesn't buy time, and this line can't give him much time for deep passes. And when he does try a deep sideline pass it turns into a jump ball situation between the WR and the DB. Put it all together and this is a team which will have trouble coming back from behind. The reason Ratliff went undrafted is he played in the spread option offense, like all QBs who succeed in that offense he was very good mobility and all around athleticism. He also has a cannon arm. Is he as accurate on long passes as BF? Probably. When Ratliff throws a deep ball the chances of one of his own players coming down with it are as good as when BF throws a deep ball. With Ratliff in the game the Jets would have had a QB who could evade the pass rush and buy time, then fire a hard thrown ball deep downfield. Thats what we needed and BF can't give that. Remember, what hurt Montana at Kansas City was not his arm, but his loss of mobility.
Like I said, silly season again, I rest my case. We have come full circle to "bench Favre, play Raitliff!" nonsense of the early season that I immortalize in my sig. IF all of that were REALLY true, then why the hell not play Raitliff in the first half, too? And all the rest of the games? Just curious, have you been drinking? :drunk:
His lack of mobilty does hurt us. He cant always count on a pump fake to buy time to throw down field. Have we ever come back from being two scores down this year? We need a down field passing game.
Brett was just off... the rhythm of the team was off. You hope somehow after half-time they get on track but they don't. It's the way sundays go down in the NFL. They needed to wake up and Brett needs to realize they win when he doesn't just launch prayers long down the sidelines. They had fleeting moments though and I'm confident they'll pull it together. It's our fans that need to man-up... Freakin' help out the d! It's a home game for crying out loud! Maybe the Jets should have to lose home field in the playoffs...it sure doesn't seem like an advantage....
Well lucky for you I think the Brett you have a hard on for is younger and so may be available, so ... drop on your knees & go for it! :rofl:
Favre was absolutely awful today and the #2 reason why the Jets lost the game just behind the moron(s?) responsible for the offensive game plan and play calling. Despite having 8 men in the box most of the time the Jets and Thomas Jones were still able to beat up on this awful Broncos run defense, yet after some early success they abandoned the running game in favor of dink and dunk passes with an inaccurate QB and receivers who were having problems hanging on to the ball. The defense was bad, but aside from the disgraceful job they did against a 6th string FB, anyone that didn't see Royal, Scheffler and Graham having huge games against the Jets woeful pass defense was kidding themselves.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=281130020 ESPN also noticed that BF had trouble going long and put these stats together: category/<10yds/>10yds Comp - 19 - 4 Att - 32 - 11 Yds - 188 - 59 TD - 0 - 0 Int - 0 - 1 Rating - 76 - 16.9 BF averaged 5.6 yds per pass. The running game averaged more than that per rush. Most of BF's yards came off of screen passes. This was not a good effort.
aside from the two long TD runs and a couple runs later than were 10+ i dont think our running game was that good. in other words there was no consistency and no reliability there
Lol when we got favre was vince youngs legs included in the deal? No? Some jet fans cry about dumb crap we lost, get over it we're 8-4 be happy. Our team played poorly shit happens. I spent the last 7 years years in and out of iraq and some of the petty crap people complain about on here just baffles me. I'm sorry if I'm ranting but we have a team who leads their div and I never expected to go 13-3 I predicted 11-5 as did most so even tho we lost I'm happy with this team
Favre is accurate it's just the elements were really messing with him and the Jets recievers. It seemed like only Keller could actually catch the ball. Favre wasn't able to throw it as well as he usually does either, especially on longer passes. His longer throws were frankly awful. This is why I think we need a dome. Or we need to play against other teams that don't know how to handle bad weather. Or maybe we just need to start practicing in bad weather now a bit so that we're prepared. I guess Mangini just didn't realize the weather would be like that, or the team would have a problem. Maybe Shanahan has better meteorologists on staff haha.
Favres lack of mobility is the least of my concerns, he played a bad game and seems to have lost the ability to throw the ball downfield, that is far more concerning than his lack of mobility.
With the kind of finesse, precision short passing game that the Jets have been running it doesn't take a genius to realize that they'd have trouble executing, as the QB pretty much needs to be perfect to sustain drives. Sure, it looks great when you string together an 8 minute drive you look like a genius, but it also leads to needless debacles like today's loss. What I can't get over is how they completely abandoned the run, when it was working so well, in favor of the pass, which was awful all day long. I mean, Jones only got 16 carries and broke off 2 long TD runs, while they chucked the ball up 43 times and the best plays were a screen pass and an awful PI call on a Keller route down the middle.
If the Jets OLine could give the QB time it would be different, but this line can't do that. We need a more mobile QB in there to keep the passing game going and keep from being one dimensional. And Favre has been throwing blind on his deep passes all season long, that INT to D. Hall was not a fluke, the man does need his eyes checked.
There were a couple of times it looked like Brett really wanted to run and his indecision may have cost those first downs.
he ran it up the middle on 3rd and 10 and almost got the 1st down, but he did seem to go down pretty easily with the 1st down line right in front of him.
