First Mid-Season Draft Review

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  1. AMJets

    AMJets Well-Known Member

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    RB isn't the biggest need, the run blocking needs to be upgraded first.
     
  2. Green Hurricane

    Green Hurricane Footsteps Falco

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    On the contrary, he's proving he can be consistently effective, which was the thing everyone was bashing him for before the Draft.
     
  3. Trey Ko

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    I'm just gonna look ahead to '07! I'm gonna start pimpin another one of my guys; Marcus Thomas, #44 DT from the Florida Gators. I think that he would be a great fit for the Jets. Unfortunately, in order to get Marcus, the Jets will have to have a top 10-12 pick (Providing Marcus could stay healthy for the duration of the season).

    Wait until the combine, you all are going to hear how he can do a back sommersault! At nearly 6'4" 300 lbs, he can do a back sommersault! He plans on doing it at the combine after he runs his 40! You heard it here first.
     
  4. Green Guy

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    do you think Peterson's draft rating will drop after the injury that puts him out for the season?
     
  5. xjets2002x

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    I don't think anyone in the league is stupid enough to pass on him, but collarbones are tricky. Marshawn Lynch could have dominant workouts, but he's got an injury history too. Guess we'll have to stay tuned.


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  6. phubbadaman

    phubbadaman Well-Known Member

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    I think RB is no longer a concern for this team. It seems to me that RBBC is the "new" trend in the NFL. Sorry if it doesn't work out for fantasy teams, but it works for winning football games. Leon/Barlow is a pretty good 1-2 punch. Since everything we do is compared to NE, if they could win with Antoine Smith, we can win with Barlow.
     
  7. dabrowsk1

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    RB is not the biggest need, not with how Washington is playing, add to that Houston and Barlow, and it is a pretty effective combination. Problem is the run blocking, that means RT, OGx2, and FB needs to be addressed.
     
  8. Jet Blue

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    Great Job GG!!!!!

    I agree.. The best move for us was to Trade DOWN - A few of us talked before the draft how D'Brick might leave us with a hole at RT since Jones isn't a Grater and then we might be a little light at LT.... That's the case for
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    Just not sure how much they tried to move down or how the market was at the time....I was dying for them to trade down and stockpile picks though.. Wanted no part of Bush for the price it would take.

    And not sure how these guys are as far as Character.. With all that's been going on in the NFL, I have to agree with their desire to get Character guys... It's just not that imperative to grab a guy like Schlegel THAT early...

    It's hard to hate that draft other than Schlegel but, yeah, Moving Down would have been Saweeeeeeeet.
     
  9. The Green Dude

    The Green Dude 2008 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    I was high on him too... sucks he is in our division
     
  10. hydro51

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    smith was actaully solid.. barlow is a srub. rbbc is just a way of saying we dont have a running game. elite runnings teams have feature backs.with the exception who has 2 rbs in the backfield every play.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he hasn't been effective at all so yes he's been consistent but consistently INeffective.
     
  12. Duk Dodgers

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    Anyone who leads the league in reception is doing something right.
    By traditional thinking/standards bush looks sub par. He's doing everything they ask of him in New Orleans.

    Still, I agree that I'm glad we didn't get him....not that I don't think he'll be special, but with our Oline and OC I don't know if we would be doing the things that NO is doing to win games.
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Bush is not making plays, he's getting dumpoffs and that's it. his YPC is horrendous and his average on recs isn't very good. They are using him too much when they have deuce who has been great this year.
     
  14. xjets2002x

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    I completely agree. I've seen nothing from Bush to suggest he's going to be as good as Tiki Barber, let alone Walter Payton. He's a poor man's Bryan Westbrook at this point.

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  15. legler82

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    Bush is being used primarily as a decoy. His presence on the field and the attention he garners is opening things up for everybody else. The fact that defenses are gameplanning to stop Bush when he really hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet says a lot about his abilities or better yet what defensive coordinators feel about his abilities.
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    You don't draft a guy like that to be a decoy.
     
  17. phubbadaman

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    Maybe you don't draft him to be a decoy, but that is what he has been. I think it was 2 weeks ago when McCallister had a 50 or 70 yard TD run. Bush faked the end around and the entire defense followed him allowing Deuce to break a huge run. His numbers aren't good, but he has had a positive effect on that team.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    They are winning and that's what it's all about but to this point he hasn't done what people expected of him.
     
  19. phubbadaman

    phubbadaman Well-Known Member

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    A very fair assessment. He had better make a play soon or his "decoy" skills will soon evaporate.
     
  20. boogerstyles

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    first and foremost.... hindsight vision is always 20/20

    my only comlpaint about the draft was the failure to add an impact player with one of the first three picks. i think the best out of the first three has been been mangold. When you have the number four pick, and a high second round pick, your in a unique position to draft a skill, impact player. maybe the cards didn't fall in the best direction as far as position and talent that year, but i think that mangini was a little too conservative with his picks.

    but, he did do well in the middle rounds. brad smith and leon washington were excellent picks. and as far as schelgel... your not going to get them all. if we can get 4 future contributers out of this draft (brick, mangold, washington smith.. possibly clemens) then you have to think it was a success, regardless of where the players were drafted.

    and wow... who the %&$^ is scouting the local talent??!!! Colston plays for the university where the jets hold camp!!! take a chance on the kid! and its not like he was snatched up either, he was used with a garbage pick... lol

    i just wish they would have been a little more risky... adding a player like bush would be tremendous for the franchise in many aspects (business, etc.).
     

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