Fitzpatrick statline can be 2 tds and 80 ints for all I care, the only statistic I care about is wins and I don't care how messy it is as long as we get the W's
That's a first "Fitzpatrick" and "Keys to the future" used in the same sentence.....Fitzpatrick isn't gonna all of a sudden figure it out in his 12th season and become Tom Brady.....He is what he is 127 tds 103 INts ......He just needs to avoid multiple turnovers and keep the ball moving effectivley
I don't think he is either, he is a veteran QB on a team that needed some stability with the most important position on the team. He is good for 8 or 9 wins with this team, but the jets still need their franchise QB, hopefully it's Petty.
Last year, if Fitz played 16 games and if you average it out he would have finished with 23 tds and 11 int and about 3,300 yards. This year, Fitz is surrounded by the best offense he's ever had with arguably one of the most quarterback friendly OC's in recent memory and a Top 5 defense on the other side. There is no reason he can't top what he did last year if he stays healthy. It he does reach those above #'s or better, this can be a 10 win team. We all know once you make the playoffs, you've got a shot.
I like what Fitzpatrick has done so far, but I have no faith in him continuing to get these types of results. I'm actually not that impressed with his decision making on the whole, and I laugh at the commentators when they point out his Harvard education like it's emblematic in any way of his abilities as an NFL quarterback. He does NOT make quick/smart/wily decisions to my eye. He looks like he can play just well enough to be the good kind of average/boring/non-injurious QB that we need on this team, but that's not his baseline by any stretch of the imagination - that's his best case realistic scenario to me. I see lots of slow, bad decisions, often times forcing the ball into coverage. Not big-armed rookie mistakes, but simply poor decisions. He gets labeled as cerebral and smart as a QB because of his undergrad, but if he hadn't played for the Crimson I don't think the general opinion of him would be nearly the same. He's ok if everything goes great, and - thankfully - I think the Jets are in position to at least take care of the things around him appropriately.
I don't think a lot of people realize that he has been on horrible football teams. With the Bills, he was throwing to all 7th rounders and undrafted free agents. Stevie Johnson had back to back 1000 yard seasons with Fitz and has done nothing since. The Bills defense was also near the bottom of the league for most of his time there. The Titans were at least competitive with Fitz, but last year looked like one of the most inept teams in history, and the Texans, who were 2-14 the year before Fitz arrived, are winless thus far this season behind poor QB play, while they were in the playoff hunt last season well into December. I think if the team plays solidly around him and the defense does their part, double digit wins and a playoff birth should be well within reach for the Jets this season.
Yeah I am really tired of hearing people say "when he goes all Fitzpatrick on ya..."the Jets will bench him, regret it, etc. I am not saying he is a totally different QB than his past has shown. But lets not kid ourselves, he was on some really bad teams before this. Brandon Marshall is by far the best receiver he's thrown to.
Thing is they aren't playing defenses as bad as Cleveland and the Colts every week. Let's see how Fitz does when we have to take on the beasts in Buffalo, Miami and Darth Hoodie.
Cleveland defense far from "bad". It's what kept them in games last season and nearly took them to the playoffs.
Cleve's pass defense was pretty good last season, but they were bad in run defense and we pretty much ran all over them in week 1.
True, but we are focusing on passing here. On the flipside, the Jets couldn't run worth a darn against the Colts, leaving the offense in 2nd and 3rd and long situations frequently, which certainly did not make the QB's job easy. There were also several 3rd and shorts where we opted to run and could not convert. Had we been able to pound the ball more effectively against Indy, we score many more points no doubt.
Well 90 seems to be a convenient cherry-picked number, Geno was over 80 in the last four he played with an interception rate 50% of what Fitzpatrick currently has. There wasn't a receiver on our roster last year that would have carried 3 defenders past the goal line like Marshall just did. We'd have had to try to run it in. I'm as excited as anyone else about our wins but this offense did NOT play well against the Colts. 5 turnovers and only 20 points is unacceptable. I get that we had a conservative game plan, but Fitz keeps forcing the ball when he can't hit em deep and Decker was open on just about every play against the Colts' 5th string CB and wasn't getting the targets in the second half. If that keeps happening against Eagles and in London, I don't care how many wins we have, you have to make a switch and get the offense going. Geno's last four games of last season: 71 109 65.14 1001 6 2 105.3 9.18 That's without Brandon Marshall to drag three defenders into the endzone and a defense that causes five turnovers a game. Ryan Fitzpatrick: 37 58 63.8 423 4 2 94.3 7.3 So with a better defense, ten turnovers, offensive line, and receiving talent we have a lower completion percentage, yards per game, interception rate, quarterback rating, and yards per attempt. This offense barely managed 20 points with 5 turnovers and instead of considering the magnitude of that underperformance, you're going to laugh like a child because you can't actually justify the play of this offense.
It's easy to stack the box when the QB can't throw deep or notice that the 5th string cornerback has left Decker open the entire game.
Actually, Fitzpatrick is 4-0 in his last four NFL starts with 11 TD's 2 INT's and QB rating well over 100.
If the box was stacked, it's amazing how 2 or 3 defenders were covering every deep pass attempt. For a guy who can't throw deep, it's pretty interesting how last season he was 3rd in the NFL in YPA and had a QB rating above a hundred on passes of over 20 yards.
Fitzpatrick was on a different team with different personnel last year. Marshall was doubled fairly frequently, yes, and Fitz was intercepted throwing it to him even though, as I said, Decker was wide open. Forcing the ball deep hasn't worked for Fitz on this team this year. Some of his throws downfield were so far off there was no Jet or Colt in the vicinity. It's interesting that he was benched last season when he was 3rd in the NFL in YPA and had a QB rating above a hundred on passes of over 20 yards. I guess there's just a dumb coach down in Houston.
He is a stop gap until Petty is ready or if he starts losing games and they give Geno another shot. You could realistically call him the weak link though since as an important position he is very shaky and if he tanks he could take the team down with him. Future, not really.
Wow, look at you, comparing last year's 9-7 Texans to our 4-12 Jets as if they had the same talent. How cute. It's also objectively false, considering the Colts won his week 15 start.
