How does FA effect our draft?

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  1. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    Nice typo, dude. It's "strategery."
     
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  2. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    thats what I was gonna say hahaha
     
  3. DevTeam

    DevTeam Well-Known Member

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    He has 4 kids from four different women? And, he's only 20???? What did he start pumping them out when he was 16 or something?

    Or was he having two at the same time with two different women -- that would be absolutely insane if it were true... leaving the hospital after one is born to go be at the second one's delivery...

    I love it.
     
  4. Quack

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    In the 4-3, you typically have a right end that plays next to the nose. He is your smaller end, sometimes as small as 250lb, and is your primary pass rusher. Your left end, however, is typically larger (270-280lb) and while more of a pass rusher than your 3-tech tackle, his duty is less of a speed rusher and more of a power rusher and to provide run support.

    In the 3-4, you have a nose and two ends. The nose's job is to control both of the 1 gaps (either side of the center). The ends play head-up (face to face, even, et cetera) on the tackles in the 3-4 and are both expected to do one major thing: Anchor themselves and hold their ground against the tackles. Vernon Gholston, in the 3-4, is an outside linebacker. These players can be anywhere from your typical inside linebacker (245lb) to a larger beast that is more of a power rusher (up to 270lb sometimes). These are your pass rushers in the 3-4. This is where Vernon Gholston fits in. This is also where Chris Long fits in, as playing 3-4 End in college is terribly different from playing 3-4 End in the NFL. 3-4 Ends can be expected to be double-teamed not only by a tackle and a tight end but sometimes by a tackle and a guard. You want a big man who can anchor himself (basically, he tries to not be moved) and typically you want height so that he has the reach to use his hands against the offensive linemen (if you are shorter and thus have shorter arms, you have to actively engage the offensive linemen which is more of a penetrating than anchoring role) and so that you can bat down passes and be in the quarterback's face rather than just trying to push the opposing linemen into him.
     
  5. JetFighter

    JetFighter Active Member

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    I really think after posting 37 reps on the bench press (the same amount as Jake Long) and running a 4.67 in the 40 yard dash, that Gholston will be long gone by the time we pick at 6. So this is a mute point. We'll be looking at the top corner, the second best running back (McFadden will be gone too) or trade down, if we can...
     
  6. GreenHornet

    GreenHornet New Member

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    As I have said a few days ago, this shows that McFadden is good at creating in space which is what you look for in a running back. All we have to do is teach him to start working it into the endzone on a regular basis and he can keep his number at 4.
     
  7. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    while it may seem insane to many of you on this board this is really not all that uncommon these days. am i a supporter of it no, but do i realize it happens frequently absolutely. ignorance is bliss i guess.
     
  8. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    i don't like dmac. i have a funny feeling he may be another lawrence phillips. if we go RB, which i don't think we should/will, i'd rather have mendenhall.
     
  9. ukjetsfan

    ukjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It would take a lot more than that to trade up five places to No.1. A LOT more. Even if the Fins were desperate to trade down, sheer professional pride would force them to demand more.
     
  10. BK_Jetsfan

    BK_Jetsfan New Member

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    Who will take him? Miami? They'll take Long. Oakland? They'll take McFadden (Al Davis will not let speed slip past him). Atlanta will take a QB, KC will take the other Long (they need O-line help), so the only threat is St.Louis, and I doubt they'll take him.
     
  11. BK_Jetsfan

    BK_Jetsfan New Member

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    Like they got for Welker?
     
  12. ukjetsfan

    ukjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Welker wasn't the overall No.1 pick in the draft. You have to give up your first-born to get that.
     
  13. Carpetbagger

    Carpetbagger Well-Known Member

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    I don't think we can really predict, as of yet, what the Jets will do in the draft.

    If we pickup Shane Olivea, than certainly, we are not in position to draft a Tackle with the 6th pick. If we pick up Pace, then Gholston would probably be out of the question, that's too much money invested into one position. IF we pick up Randall Gay, then we are not in the market for a corner in round 1.

    I don't see Mcfadden going past the Raiders, even with Fargus getting an extension.

    My point is that it is too early to really see what the Jets will do in the draft, since there are many remaining possibilities in free agency.
     
  14. ukjetsfan

    ukjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    If all of those signings you mention are made, I suspect the Jets would take running back - they can have an instant impact on a team and the Jets would suddenly look good to threaten in the AFC East.
     
  15. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    good point about mcfadden.....by the time the jets get done with training camp in hempstead - he likely will become a father several additional times. not the best place for a pup with no self discipline. in fact it may benefit him and his already born children if they ship him off to pittsburgh or green bay.

    forget it - there is NNNOOO way he becomes a jet.....now of course they will drool and advertaise the hell out of him to entice a trade but there is just no way.

    its gholston or bust

    jil
     
  16. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    Moot point.:eek:fftopic:
     
  17. ReservoirDog76

    ReservoirDog76 New Member

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    The Rams are VERY likely to take him for a pass rusher opposite of Leonard Little.

    Oakland might take him as well.
     
  18. tangini_disciple

    tangini_disciple New Member

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    There are only 3 guys that I think make sense for the Jets at #6:
    Chris Long
    Jake Long
    Vernon Gholston

    McFadden just isn't a good fit since we have needs elsewhere (and two very different style RBs), Ryan doesn't seem like the real deal, Ellis and Dorsey don't fit our scheme.

    I'm actually thinking if either Long is there around 4, we'll trade up with the Raiders who'll want to take McFadden a bit lower anyway. If not, we'll probably stay put and take Gholston.

    STL will take Jake Long if he's there, and ATL will probably take Ryan, so it really depends on what MIA does. This regime isn't afraid to trade up.

    I personally think the league right now over-values draft picks and moving down, so we might be able to get a good deal to move up if we really like a player.
     
  19. jetlife21

    jetlife21 Well-Known Member

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    who here sees Leon Washington improving every year and becoming an elite back?
     
  20. notjustQBs

    notjustQBs New Member

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    Leon Washington is ALREADY an elite back. What do you think he does behind a BLOCKING OL?

    I think it's significant that we take the OL's performance into account BEFORE we rate our RBs.

    Personally, I was amazed that TJ broke a grand behind that line this past year.
     

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