Someone please define a #1 receiver for me. Is it based on yards? catches? passes thrown to? TDs? Is there a threshold, such as 80 catches makes a receiver a #1, but 79 is a #2? Does 1200 yards make a receiver a #1?
Stuckey would have been a late 1 early round 2 last year had it not been for his injury. The Jets took a good long look at his injury, drafted him, let him injure it all over again and placed him immediatley on IR. The latter being the best possible thing they have done with him so far. Stuckey when fit will be a threat, its just when. IMO~Bust.
My point exactly. There is no such thing as a #1 or #2. When did Wayne and Harrison "switch?" Did Wayne start running patterns in the Colt playbook designed for their "#1 receiver?" Who is the #1 in Arizona??? When did Holt pass Bruce as the #1 in St. Louis? Can someone tell me the year? Are there different patterns run by the #1? Can a possession receiver be a #1?
dman, cant be a bust yet. lets see what happens this year. dont forget, he had won the 3rd wr job before getting hurt.
Any of the Moss', TO, Ocho Stinko, TO, Toon. Whatever that factor is thats a #1 WR for me. Danger men, #1 threat.
Dude...take the green glasses off. I love Cotch, but T.J. and Anquan are arguably #1 talents. Cotch proved last year that he is not a #1 reciever and thrives in a #2 role, while Boldin, at least, showed that he can carry the load.
The main reason why Cotch couldn't be a #1 last year was because JMac lined up on the other side of him. The other team only had to worry about JCotch, and would put their best 2 defenders on him.
Don't get me wrong, Cotch is terrific. Maybe with a better supporting cast, my opinion can change.. but when coles went down, Cotch became the #1, McDroppins the #2... not gonna look like a #1 with that kinda help. Best way I can attempt to explain it is, if your QB is right handed, the #1 WR is going to be on the right side of the field so the QB can make the read to him in the dropback, the backside QB is the the 2nd choice. From the defensive stand point, the best Cornerback is going to line up across from the WR on the right. The #1 WR might not necessarily put up the best numbers on the team because he demands the #1 CB and often the double team, freeing up the #2 WR to make the play. See Wes Welker. In the case of Harrison and Wayne, Harrison lines up right of Peyton, so the #1 CB is across from Harrison... And i can't think of too many secondaries that can cover Harrison and Wayne.. Which is why every WR on that team is a threat.
The #1 receiver is the guy defenses key on, the guy you stick your top CB on. And the #2 is the other starter. As soon as teams start double-teaming Wayne and putting their best CB on Wayne, while giving Harrison single coverage, Wayne is the #1, because he is the #1 concern for the defense. Or in the case of last year, as soon as the #1 gets injured, the #2 becomes the #1. In asking whether a #2 can be a #1, you are asking if a guy can still continue to produce at a high level if he becomes the #1 concern for the opposing defense. If he starts having to deal with double-teams and facing a team's top CB, can he still get it done.
I was and still am being sarcastic. There is no such thing as a #1. The only player on this board who ever played pro ball - Mezzavo - confirmed that a few years ago. It is nothing but a term used by fans. Receivers are receivers. And this right side left side is not accurate either. Receivers are constantly switching sides of the field.
Somebody on TGG actually mentioned him to be an OK #3 WR. I remember he got chewed for sometime.... I put Cotch ahead of Coles. Coles is aging and Cotch is ONLY reaching his prime. I predict Cotch to see Hawai with in the next 2 seasons.
Marvin Harrison takes majority of the snaps from the right side. I guess every fan, and every reporter is an idiot because you don't like the term... My bad. Discussing a term used by fans, on fan website.. what the hell were we thinking?
Good for Mezzavo, but last time I checked, this isn't the Front Office and none of us here ever really had a chance to play pro ball. For the most part, this is a MESSAGE BOARD who is primarily conducted and enjoyed by FANS. So stop being sarcastic and just comment on the question at hand. Everyone else here seemed to understand who and what a #2 receiver is. When you get a job as part of the Coaching Staff or the Front Office, then you can refer to Coles and Cotch as the 2 wide receiver starters. Meantime, Coles is the #1 receiver, Cotch is the #2. Jesus.
There is no question that Coles speed and shiftiness gets Cotchery open more often than not. When Coles was hurt, this greatly affected both of these receivers' ability to get open. In my opinion, both Coles and Cotchery desperately need help from a fast slot receiver who can run great clever routes that break him open and draw attention away from the two on Coles and two on Cotch DB concentrations. Last year, Brad Smith did not attract nearly enough attention to make a difference. Chanci Stuckey has the speed and perhaps the shifty moves to do the job. However, his route running remains to be seen to be effective. To have three receivers that split the DB attention more equally at a time when our OL is more dominant than in the last few years -- then our RBs will gain more yards, and our QBs will hit more passes. It would also be really nice to put four wideouts on the field where two or three of them were scary fast. Coles can still be one of these, MAYBE Chanci Stuckey can, but who will the third one be?
that may be true, but you dont need a true #1, look at the packers, i wouldnt say donald driver is that much better then coles, but they can run the ball and spread the field, we should be able to do the same next year with a revamped oline, i think all we need is another solid wr, not a true #1 (although i wouldnt be opposed to it)
Well on this team he should be a #1 because Coles is over the hill. but yes there are better second recivers, the really good ones ie Wayne, Boldin, Jenings could be number ones
No way that Coles is over the hill. He got injured, that's all. I believe Coles will come back healthy, and with a newly dominating (let's hope) OL, his output will change for the better.
and better supporting cast of recievers. give us a bona- fide #1 reciever, and watch him take flight.:up:
