Hoyer visiting the Jets

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  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    those guys arent 33 year old journeyman
     
  2. socaljetfan

    socaljetfan Active Member

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    Made playoffs, had a better TD-INT ratio, more accurate, better passer rating, better YPA, with a much weaker supporting cast.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    we're jets fans. average qb play = good.
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    it's funny when people say brian hoyer made the playoffs. then you mention the playoff game performance and they want to talk about the teams.
     
  5. socaljetfan

    socaljetfan Active Member

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    Was his last game really that much worse than Fitzpatrick's? That's what I thought. Of course, Hoyer's bad game came against a playoff team. Fitzpatrick lost to Rex Ryan's Bills, which is a mediocre at best team.
     
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  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    uhm, yes, yes it was
     
  7. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Um yes, yes it was. Go watch it and see the carnage.

    Why are you basing seasons off of one game though?

    Hoyer was one of 4 QB's to play for Houston last season. If you want to say that he made the playoff then you should say that the other 3 mediocre QB's that started games for them made the playoffs too.
     
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  8. socaljetfan

    socaljetfan Active Member

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    I'm not basing seasons off one game, Hoyer had a better season by almost every metric while having less talent around him on both sides of the ball. If Fitz could've played poorly instead of atrociously he too would've had an opportunity to throw playoff interceptions, unfortunately he got them all out of his system against the lowly Bills.
     
  9. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Such a silly statement.
     
  10. socaljetfan

    socaljetfan Active Member

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    Great argument you got there buddy
     
  11. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    You want me to argue why Fitz had a better year than Hoyer?
     
  12. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Hoyer had a TD/INT ratio of 19/11. That's worse than Fitz's 31/15.
     
  13. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    But he "made the playoffs".
     
  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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  15. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Hahahahahaaaa this guy again.

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  16. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Almost as good an argument as saying Hoyer had a better year by almost every metric, not realizing that's false.
     
  17. barkus

    barkus Well-Known Member

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    Your counting hoyers playoff game which was admittedly horrific. His regular season ratio was 19td:7int. Plus had a 91+ passer rating. He has a stronger arm than fitz and has a decent deep ball. If he comes at half the price of fitz he would be worth it.
     
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    Section 336 Well-Known Member

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    But if he had "Way Fewer Passes" doesn't that skew the stats.

    Hoyer 19 TD passes in 9 starts --- more then 2 per start 7 ints less than 1 per start
    Fitz - 31 TD passes in 16 starts -- less than 2 per start 15 ints a little less than 1 per start

    In fact Hoyer's Ints per pass attempt were less than Fitz
    Hoyer's yards per attempt were higher.

    Too say that Fitz or Hoyer were better in almost every metric is false, they basically grade out to almost identical stats last year, each ahead of the other in some.

    Hoyer actually has a career winning record as a starter while Fitz is a career loser by a wide margin as a starter.
    Hoyer took a team to the playoffs, Fitz never has.

    I really want neither on the team, but if it is a choice between the 2 and Hoyer is half the price tag, then it is a no brainer.
     
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  19. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I'm done discussing hoyer. he's nothing more than a career backup who's an insurance policy imo.
     
  20. LAJet

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    Agree.....and so is Fitz by the way. He can keep the ship afloat for a year, hopefully no more. We need to find our long term solution quickly.
    He does not have the zip to fire the ball in tight spaces like you need against better defenses. Nor can he open up the game with longer passes. He will not loose it for us, but we need the QB defenses have to game plan around.....and he ain't it.
     
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