What does Trent Dilfer have to do with Matt Leinart?? If you are the USC fanboy you say you are, than you would know that Leinart is the opposite of an average Qb with decent leadership abilities.. He doesn't have the pure physical talent of Palmer but he is very much in his league as a QB prospect and certain aspects of his game are better.. I cannot understand how anyone can say we have good talent at the Qb position, Penny is finished, he will never be a starter in this league again, at least thats the way you need to look at it until proven otherwise. I won't even get into Ramsey who has had multiple opportunities and failed..
Where do I hear he doesn't have the measurables? Here's just three, there are a lot more... Phil Simms on NFL.com... In Leinart, I see a very good delegator of the football. He finds the open guy pretty well. I would say he has good to very good accuracy underneath. I'm a big arm strength guy, and in the NFL, no matter what kind of quarterback you are, you have to be able to throw the underneath passes. In the championship game, he did that very well against a very good Texas Longhorns defense. His arm strength, no question, is going to limit some of the things he will do in the NFL. When you draw up plays, there are some things you can't do because of what he does. He's not going to throw 30-yard zingers into tight coverage in the NFL. That would be a downside. I also noticed that he does lose control of the football every once in a while; the ball sails high a little, probably because he doesn't put enough rotation on his passes. This can be a factor in cold weather. Can he learn to improve this? Absolutely. But that would be my concern with him. NFL Draft Showcase.com SCOUTING REPORT: Leinart's best qualities are his intangibles. Stepping in for the Heisman Trophy winner and number one overall pick in the NFL Draft is no easy task, but this talented lefty seemed unphased. He is a team leader, and a winner. His accuracy is also outstanding....He's one of college football's best players. His lack of measureables, his lack of arm strength will be picked apart, but QBs like him with accuracy and intangibles have crashed the Super Bowl parties of late. FoxSports.com Has functional arm strength, but will hang the ball up at times when trying to fire deep over the middle. When you're on a really good team that wins lots of games (no doubt Leinart was a contributor to those wins, but far from being the primary factor), then all the sudden, you "know how to win" and have "really good intangibles."
Trent Dilfer was playing with quite possibly the best defense of all time...its not too hard to win when you have that on your side.
If Leinart is there at 4 at the Jets pass on him I swear I won't watch one more Jets game. No way Leinart falls to four.
you said if we didnt take Leinart we'd be "watching ESPN 10 yrs from now regretting passing on the next great QB, AGAIN" i said "passing on young or cutler would be a big mistake" thats just me busting your balls about leinart, its not that hard. ill be honest id like to see cutler or young in green before leinart. that being said anybody can be a bust, especially the top 3 qb's this yr. leinart being the safest, young with the highest upside, and cutler showing alot of next level tools. everyone has their preferences, im not even that concerned about taking any of those 3,but we'll find out in time who is right. hell even then points can be debated.
Haha i see more positives than negatives in those reports... Go find a nice big list of positives now alright? Still... your clueless... wait not clueless just biased. I do see the negatives that Leinart offers but the positives grrrreeeeeeaaattttly out weigh them.
Not the point, pal. Don't change the subject. You asked in a response to my original post...."You say Leinart doesn't have the measurables. I want to know where your getting this from." So the links I posted talked about less than ideal measurables. Now you can argue that his positive "intangibles" outweigh his negative "measurables", but that's a different discussion. My point all along has been its easier to ignore a guy's weaknesses when he's in a winning program, instead focusing on the fact that he's an "intangible winner"
If you just give Ramsey a chance you will find out that he is better than any QB in this year's draft. Save your QB pick. With Davis as a tight end and a couple of Ol in the later rounds we could rock. Two tight end formations will be hard to defend in the red zone. Last years weekest part of the game. now for the RB of the future, who will that be?
Palmer was a little raw coming out of USC. He didn't have the best leadership skills and still made plenty of mental mistakes. However, he had 'boom' potential, which makes him a top 5 NFL QB now. What you see is what you get with Leinart. Put him on a great team and he will take care of business most of the time. He will nevert be great, but he can be good enough to win. See Trent Dilfer.
perfect point.. Ramsey played 2 yrs in a made for college offense in Washington. Got his ass kicked and kept getting up. Gibbs never wanted him for what ever reason.. I say if Leinart drops to 4, try shopping him around while we are on the clock, we don't need a QB ... Unless it's Vince Young:breakdance:
