True...he could’ve handled it a bit differently. It could’ve been a talk track like “we are about winning. we are not winning, so like we do every year, we will evaluate everyone in the building at the end of the year and see where we land”. we’ve heard that talk track before from lots of teams....it doesn’t commit to anything one way or another. And it either lights a fire in the coach or players or they fold, in which case either way you’ve learned something about them. he could’ve played it that way. He didn’t ... he played it in a more supportive role, with both Gase and Darnold. Of course, he did NOT say we wouldn’t draft TL if we get the first pick....no GM would say that even if it were true. But this approach feels like it is in line with what we’ve heard about him way back from the start....he builds relationships and he builds consensus....he listens to opinions but makes the final call. That’s what we heard about him, and to me, these comments and this approach is consistent with all of that. That’s his leadership approach...he builds a team. He threw himself in the boat by saying these results are on everyone, himself included. Look...I don’t have a problem with his “how”....we’ll see at year end as we see what happens with Gase and how we do in the draft what he REALLY means, but like any good GM, we won’t see his hand before then.
The comment about Sam is not true, go back and listen. he said he has no problem stating Sam is our future QB... and I believe he qualified that by saying he needs to get better skilled players and OL.
No he shouldn't because that would be as bad as saying he sucks... Even if he believes that AG blows he has to keep an even keel and support the idiot he works for so he doesn't sow division.
I listen to the entire presser and I came away concerned. I know he is a rookie and needs time. He is honest and tows the company line via AG/SAM and even CJ. I would expect nothing less. That being said, I was dubious about some of his responses because he seem to be searching for answers... Up until this time, I wasn't concerned with JD but now maybe....
Like I said before it’s obvious he wasn’t going to slam Gase or Sam. I just am concerned with all the future talk with those 2. Ray Charles can see Gase is terrible and needs to be fired.
Jets GM Joe Douglas is in impossible Adam Gase position “This is not all on Adam,” Douglas said. “I have to do a better job of surrounding him with better players and better weapons. We’re in this together. I’m going through and thinking of everything I can do to try to help Adam. The goal is to get this fixed together.” Yup, they should get fired together. I don't get why so many people are giving Douglas a pass. What exactly are his great achievements?
Its not up to JD to "keep" Gase, in this stupid organisational system he is equal to Gase - only Chris Johnson or Woody can sack him! I watched the whole press conference and it was quite clear that most of the "reporters" there were trying to get him to criticise Gase amd Sam. In my opinion thats why he spoke slowly and chose his words carefully and I think he did a good job in that respect.
Because it is his first draft and FA, he is a respected figure in the NFL world, he arrived at a franchise that couldn't be any shitter than it is, his pal convinced him to take the job supposedly? He now faces the prospect of getting his pal sacked as it is blatantly obvious he out of his depth as an HC/OC man management and whatever else you can think of. This is why JD shouldn't be sacked after 1 draft.
I do not get the love for JD. He left no talent for our qb to work with,noone, Even if you thinks he is not the one, allow him to be a trade able asset. Sam probably could have been traded for a late 1st when JD came in here .now what is he worth a late 5 if we are lucky, The o-line last yr, the o-line this yr, Robbie Jamal Adams. So many fans are happy we are getting Seattle next two yrs 1 and I believe a third this yr. Miami traded a bum ot to Houston for 2 1s and a number 2. . All Douglass needed to do was quiet Adams and match that value. Douglass decided to trade Adams to Seattle for 2 1s and a 3. The many difference is Houstons !~ st rd picks are probably a top 10 this yr, maybe top 3 or number 1. They have a tough schedule and only 1 win. I believe last yrs pick from houston was in the early 20s, Plus they will also net an early 2nd rd pick from 30-40 this yr from Houston. What do we get from Seattle for a great player, ho had this deal to work off of. A probable very late 1 .28-32, next yr a very late 1 unless the qb gets hurt,however it is a very late 1 and a number 3 that will probably have the value of a number 4 early. The guy already had a blueprint for the value he should get for Adams and rolled over We have maybe 3 players on our roster that I would build around. When we hired JD there were a lot more guys that I would believe in. For him to come out and not blame Gase for the lack of offense. The guy is a pxssy. Hold everyone accountable. Say Adam needs to figure how to adjust at half time, we look good in the 1st halves of games He should be out there hinting at our plans, we have nothing . We should be building the bottom half of our roster every week,special teams ,backups... Etc... We should be turning over the lower part of our team and looking for some gems. We are 0 for , we are the worst team in the nfl right now. There has got to be a better player out there for us. Find them. A football ball team has 52 players and I think there are maybe 5 or 6 on this team that I think are worth having in 2021. That is a long way to go. Lets say we hit on 2 free agents and draft picks, This yr we are saying we hit on Becton and MIms. We are still not that far from the team JD got 2 yrs ago. Even if we get Lawrence,whose potential I believe is more than Sams He is another qb coming into a very bad team. JD has destroyed this team, and even 6 yrs are not enough to overcome the damage he has already done
Let me be perfectly clear. IMO, JD did the best any GM could do under the current circumstances. He gets my respect more and more every day. When he makes a mistake he admits it, but he does not throw anyone under the bus. This is a cluster fuck problem created by CJ, which hopefully and mercifully, will be properly solved by year end. If Gase is still around, at least we need to be smart enough to know who made that decision. And it ain’t JD.,
Don't know if this changes anything, but Dr Fauci today said there's a high likelihood of no fans in the stands next year either. Which probably means no TC. So two things: If there's no TC (again), Johnson may decide to keep Gase for continuity. Second, Johnson will be 2 years removed from dealing with fans, and probably doesn't give a rats ass what we think.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who saw a report or two that Joe Douglas has been known to have problems of clarity and getting his message across and it has hurt negotiations but two instances of that possibility in the same press conference raises ones eyebrows. Not only do we get the Gase as part of the solution talk but we get the admission of a breakdown in figuring the value of Robby Anderson. The former may be simply a slip of the tongue in the heat of an interview but the latter points to a failure in communications which is at the heart of the job. Why didn't he know how much Carolina was offering, had he simply thrown out an offer and cut off contact? Perhaps he needs a detail oriented assistant to stay on top of these things and correct them before they become ongoing problems.
I can understand the Gase part, as nobody is ever going to sit in that press conference and say Gase is a shit and will be binned at the end of the season, it is never going to happen, the fact they are friends makes it even more awkward, when CJ or Woody man up and fire Gase, JD's hands will be clean of the act and he and us will move on with a coach hopefully of his choosing and he can then live or die by his own choice and drafts. Pray to whatever god you worship that we are not fucking wasting 6 years of our lives again.
Not really, but trying to teach a new team a new offense, defense, and teams over zoom with no PS games works about as, well, the 2020 jets.
I'm not sure how JD's inability to project Robby's value resulting in losing him. What probably happened is JD thought Robby would draw offers in the $14-$16 range (I did too), which would be too rich for his blood. Soooo, JD started looking for Robby's replacement long b4 things went sought. JD most likely already looked at Perriman film, and talked himself into Perriman = Robby. JD probably convinced himself out of necessity that the Jets would be fine with Perriman after Robby left for greener pastures. But then when Robby's best offer was close to what JD offered, instead of moving from Perriman back to Robby, he just went with Perriman. He already convinced himself we'd be OK.
Wait, you think someone admitting their mistakes and saying that they will work hard to correct that flaw going forward so that it doesn't happen again is a red flag for you? Care to elaborate on that one? Because I took it as a great sign for Douglas' progression as a GM. You even said it during your last comment, he's a rookie GM. Is he perfect? No. Could he eventually be a good/great GM? Maybe, I definitely hope so. But to say that someone working on their flaws is a red flag for you is a ridiculous take IMO.
Or maybe Robby and his camp didn't give the Jets a chance to match Carolina's offer and thought their original offer was as high as they'd go? Both scenarios are equally as likely IMO.
We'll probably never really know, but I assume one of the first things JD did when he got here was to look at his players who would become free agents. Robbie was at the top of the list. His 'team' probably convinced him that Robby would draw significant interest ($$$$$), and will have to be replaced. JD most likely had Perriman lined up long before Robby skated. If that's the case, JD's sin was failing to come off Perriman and back to Robby. JD may have even made Perriman's agent an offer, assuming Robby wasn't going to be an option. I think we singed Perriman like the day after Robby took off.
