Is Chad the weakest armed starting QB in the league? (MERGED)

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  1. BenGrahamFan

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    You do know he looked off the safety which caused Coles to be wide open right?
     
  2. Serphnx

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    Vince Young and Mike Vick are definitely up there. Too bad Vick doesn't seem to know how to aim at anybody. I think they're the top 2 from what I've seen of their arms.
     
  3. nyscene911

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    bwahahahahah :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  4. 10nyjets87

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    I was being sarcastic... Leftwich has been clocked in at 90 mph throwing a football. and Favre has dislocated his receivers fingers in the pass from throwing so hard.
     
  5. yanks9596

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    It is not a knock on Chad, but I've watched alot of football these last few years, and Chad's arm is undoubtedly the weakest of all. Brunell has moderate arm strength, considerably more than Chad. Brees is on the lower end in terms of arm strength, but certainly puts more zip on the ball than our man Chad does!
     
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    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    Take out your bats and take a swing at me if you would like..lol...BUT,

    now that Leinart is playing..I would have to say that he may have the weakest arm in the NFL. Sorry, I know many were impressed with him against the Bears...I just didnt see it. Just saw a bunch of WR's screen passes to go with a couple downfield passes.

    Has no idea where the pass rush is coming from. He is the in thing now I guess...I just dont get it.
     
  7. lightning

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    Charlie frye's arm is weaker than BB, Alex Smith has a nice arm, Gradkowski as well, Brett favre should still be number one on any list IMO.
     
  8. hydro51

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    hhahaa ur drunk leftwich has a cannon.. and farve has easily one of the best arms of all time.
     
  9. lightning

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    The only problem with leftwich is he has to take such a huge stride, he can easily break a receivers ribs too.
     
  10. 10nyjets87

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    :wink: look up towards the top of this page.
     
  11. Buttle

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    Remember the Oakland game in 2002. He tried to throw a 40 yard Hail Mary into the endzone and barley made it halfway. But arm strength is not throwing a bomb its the ability to throw 10-20 yeard passes which for the most part Chad cannot do. His limit is 7 yards anything longer than that becomes a jump ball.

    The most telling comment I ever heard about Chad's arm was from Curtis Martin. He made the comment at the end of the 2002 season. he said we used to watch him in practice and we all said there is no way this kid can play in the NFL. He made that comment in reference to the arm strength.

    So in answer to your question. Yes of course he is. There has not been a weaker armed QB since Billy Kilmer and to be honest I really don't know how bad Kilmer's arm strength was but his passes were ugly..

    Now does that mean he is a bad Qb. No it just means he has limitations. He cannot throw out passes. He cannot thrown the ball down the field into tight coverage. He cannot squeeze the ball into traffic. In the two minute offense he is generally limited to throiwng dump offs and short passes over the middle of the field. As long as he does not try to do to much and play within himself he is ok. He is not a QB can that can gunsling it 30+ times a game and win the game for you. He is simply a manage the game and let you beat yourself QB.

    But he wins games. He manages the offense and he does not turn the ball over. I will take that over a Ryan Leaf arm anyday.
     
  12. 10nyjets87

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    do you know how long twenty yards is????? its nothing. chad can throw the ball 40 easily. He has great touch on those kind of passes.
     
  13. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    This statement is missing a key word.
    The word "starting" should appear there.

    If someone wanted to make the argument that Pennington is the weakest armed (regular) starting QB since Billy Kilmer, it wouldn't be a crazy idea.

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    There have been plenty of QBs with weak arms who wore headphones and held clipboards during games.

    Matt Cavanaugh had a 13-year NFL career with a weak arm.

    What about the Detmer brothers?

    There are plenty more QBs like that.

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    Kilmer had a weaker arm than Pennington. Kilmer regularly threw wounded ducks. That said, he was quite effective.
     
  14. Serphnx

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    Brady, both Mannings, Favre, McNabb and plenty of others have a stronger arm than Chad. You would refuse to take them because they have good arms? That's just silly. You don't refuse a Ryan Leaf arm, you refuse the Ryan Leaf intellect. If Chad had Ryan Leaf intellect his arm wouldn't even be a question, he'd be incompetent both ways.
     
  15. Jtuds

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    Brett Favre, Byron Leftwich, and Carson Palmer.....

    In the NFL QB challenge, the top 2 for total distance have been Leftwich and Palmer for like the last 3 seasons...
     
  16. BenGrahamFan

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    Watch the first play of this video and tell me this again: "His limit is 7 yards anything longer than that becomes a jump ball."

    http://media.putfile.com/Game-Highlights---Jets-Vs-Patriots-91706
     
  17. Twombles

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    That first pass was up in the air for ages mate.
    Im not raggin on chad im just saying that his best passes are during the play action when he has the time to float the ball
     
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    No it was not. the majority of his passes, Yes. I know just like everyone else that he has a weak arm but not everythrow he makes past 7 yds is a floater. That one was Not a floater. Even the one to cotchery where he scored that TD after being hit low. was that a 'floater'??
     
  19. Twombles

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    mabey i used the wrong word i am not saying that he always passes floaters because then he would be a bad qb and we have the numbers that say otherwise. Im just saying that Chad does have or did have quite a weak arm. Other qbs could throw bullets that far but what we saw is probably close to the fastest he could throw it that distance
     
  20. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Here we go again. This discussion is old and tired and mainly irrelevant. There are QBs with mediocre arms that are good QBs and win and there are those with strong arms that are bad and lose. It becomes annoying when Jet fans constantly measure Pennington by his arm strength rather than the results. Arm strength is but one of 10-15 factors that go into being an NFL QB. How about accuracy? How about the ability to read defenses? How about confidence? Leadership? Calling audibles? Avoiding interceptions? Some QB's with big arms fall in love with their arms and throw ill-advised passes. So while it may be exciting to see that play where the strong armed QB throws the ball across his body on one leg and throws a frozen rope for a completion, but that ignore the two interceptions the same QB threw by overthrowing an open receiver or trying to fit the ball between two defenders to a receiver who wasn't open.

    How many people think the Jets would be 3-3 without Pennington? He, Coles and Rhodes have carried the team so far.

    Why don't we measure which QB has the largest shoe size? It has about as much relevance.
     
    #60 Joe Willie White Shoes, Oct 21, 2006
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