Is Ground & Pound going to be back? (ver 2.0 - WCO style)

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  1. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct?date=2012-02-05

    Philly was 8th in pass play % last year at 61.72% the top team Detroit was at 66.29%, 16th place was 58.40% and last was the Seahawks at 45.67%. The Jets finished at 52.25% good for 28th.

    In the last five years Philly never finished above 62% pass plays and only once below 59%. They never finished number one in pass ratio, but were often in the top ten. This will be a pass first offense, but its hardly leaving out the run. Fans, as usual, blow this way out of proportion when it comes to thier own team
     
  2. Royal Tee

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    Yea...um. Unfortunately our ground and Pound means
    The QB on the Ground or Pounding some ass...
     
  3. Lehtonen

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    Sounds like Moore left a year too soon.
     
  4. TNJet

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    Why not? It's the only way Garrard or Smith get a chance with Rex at the helm.
     
  5. JetsVilma28

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    We have to run the football. The running game sets up the pass, the play action, the dagger. I love dominate running prowess. It says something when a team can attack on both land and air. We have been one dimensional with a shit offensive line, garbage veteran crybaby receiver, young receivers and solid #2 back carrying as a starter under the leadership of dumb schotty 5 receiver 5yd curls on 3rd and 7 and dumber never execute a HB screen pass, staple of the NFL, Sparano.

    Morningwheg, better identify the strengths of his offense, keep Rex at bay, and find a way to introduce his pass attack philosophy while maintaining effective balance.
     
  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    There's a reason we brought in running backs who are good receiving options. This isn't going to be a bullshit 1962 offensive scheme anymore.
     
  7. alleycat9

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    those are just fantasy stats ;)

    to be fair though, does detroit even have a running back? and thats still 10 percent less runs than we made last year.

    you are right though, once you get something in your head it becomes a focal point and the eagles games i have watched the past few years it has been a focal point for me.
     
  8. Br4d

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    Two things we really don't want to see next year: Chris Ivory running the ball a lot, Geno Smith running the ball a lot. Same reason on both, if they get hurt our chances go way down.
     
  9. Harpua

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    I think it will be a good change, if we can keep our QB upright and have healthy receivers. We still have a very skilled vet in Holmes, an emerging player in Kerley, and a raw but talented guy in Hill. Add in running backs that can actually catch in Goodson and Ivory and I don't think it will look as bad as it seems. The WCO uses a lot of short passes and a pseudo running game and MM likes to go deep off of the short passes sucking up the defense.

    Ground and pound will be dead, but Ivory is a power running option. If the defense goes small I expect that he will see a good amount of carries. Sure we will not be a top running team, but hopefully not a bottom tier passing offense any more.

    Our on being question mark is TE. Cumberland is an intriguing guy with receiver type skills in a TE frame, Smith is a great athlete, but can he make an impact at football is a big unknown, and Bohannon is another guy who could make an impact. He played HBack, Fullback, and a little in line TE at wake. We have a bunch of potential. Hopefully one of them makes a go of it.

    We may not have a great season, but it will at least be an interesting one in seeing who steps up.
     
  10. Tommy Gunnz

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    I don't care if we "ground and pound" or throw it 60 times a game, whatever will get us wins is fine by me
     
  11. ArmandJ

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    Just...wow. How do you not talk to a running back in your offense, Sparano...?

    God..the guy was so inept and we hired him.
     
  12. cval

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    Sparano is a good vet hard nosed coach. He is not an OC and oh did he prove that.
    That hiring is still strange and does not go in the plus column for Rex.

    If Rex made the hire what was he thinking.

    If Tanny made the hire it was to get control of the offense , again does not look good on Rex.
     
  13. tank75

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    god imagine if tanny made a move for peyton and we had sparano as the oc haha
     
  14. Cman69

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    Taken from PFT 3.27.12:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...isliking-tony-sparano-to-saying-thats-my-guy/

    There you go.. Proof positive that Rex Ryan knew more about how to slice a ham sandwhich than how to effectively run a MODERN NFL OFFENSE in 2012. Pray the man learned something last year before hiring MM to run a WCO.
     
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    Stephen Ross recently came out and said Sparano ruined our whole season the year after he courted Harbaugh and said Sparano wouldn't stop pouting about it.

    Obviously Ross shares blame in that but Sparano is an awful coach
     
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    Having watched the Fins since Ross bought them I'm pretty sure he's part of the problem not part of the solution. They had the one good year under the Parcells conservatorship but the results since then have been pretty consistently poor.

    We'll see what happens this year. Ross went all-in with the free agents and maybe that will put the Fins over the top. I don't really see it though.
     
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    Far from proof that is what was said publically that is about all the truth you get from that. Sparano was not the OC in Miami.

    You would you hire Rex as your OC because the offense played well aginst you that day?

    This is just all Media fluff and being a good soldier.
     
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    Anyone that would hire Rex Ryan for anything to do with operating a offense should be drug tested and then fired. :)

    Seriously, I wouldn't hire anyone on the strength of a single occurrence as I believe anybody can get lucky once.
     
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    i will always believe parcells was behind the curtain getting sporano hired here. he called in a favor to tanny to help out sporano one last time
     
  20. buddapaw

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    Ground & Pound is the terminology used by a person who doesn't know diddlyshit about offense. ergo Rex
     

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