Never take these doomsday cap assessments by those in the media at face value, cuts can be made, contracts restructured, players traded, at the end of the day we are going to be under the cap before 2013 season starts.
yes but not by much....its not just the media.... those cuts, trades and such will create room but just create more starting holes... we'll be under the cap alright...can we compete or will we take a step back is another question.
Team probably won't compete next year, regardless of the cap situation. 3 of the starting LB's on on the downslide anyways, offensive line needs 3 new bodies, RB needs a jump start (but that would be helped with a revamped OL). and of course the QB situation. Even with a good cap situation unless the Jets hit really big in the 2013 draft they don't appear to be competitive till at least 2014, or 2015..yes they might slip in to the playoffs as an 8-8 or 9-8 team but it would be a lucky 8-8 or 9-8.
Yeah, cuts can be made and they will make them..they can actually get about 12 million under and then all they have to do is fill the 25 openings they will then have with it. Everybody just assumes they are 19 million over for the 53 players that were on the team last year, that's not it. They are 19 million over for the 33 players left from last years' team. 20 of them are free agents from that team and not included in any of the cap numbers you see.
They will have to cut those players anyway......if it were up to me I would cut ALL the dead wood this offseason, concentrate on the draft and bargain free agents and look to 2014 with a fresh start and plenty of cap room. This is at least a two year replenishing job anyway. That will never happen though...Woody has to sell those PSLs. I mean we all know what's coming in 2013...5 maybe 6 wins. I'd rather cut everybody we are going to cut now and take my chances.
Yeah, they suck but about 10 of them at least were starters so that means the coaches must have thought they sucked less then the ones who didn't start. No matter how you look at it we are in full rebuild mode. Landry, Bell, Greene, DeVito, Edwards, Folk, Keller, Moore, Slauson, Thomas, Scott, Pace and Howard all started and I don't see how they find the money to bring any of them back. Oh, and maybe the rest of them were they guys that backed these up.
The best way to look at the cap as of this moment is that the Jets are at $118.5M out of an allowance of somewhere between $124.4M and $125.9M. The range I listed is because I've seen several figures thrown out as the amount that the Jets have to rollover from 2012 to the 2013 cap. The players that played defined roles for the Jets this year that are not included in the $118.5M cap number are as follows: Defense LaRon Landry Calvin Pace Mike DeVito Bart Scott Yeremiah Bell Bryan Thomas Eric Smith Offense Shonn Greene Brandon Moore Dustin Keller Jeff Cumberland Matt Slauson Austin Howard Lex Hilliard Chaz Schilens Braylon Edwards Jason Smith Special Teams Nick Folk Tanner Purdum (long snapper) That's 11 or 12 starters plus the kicker and the long snapper, plus at least 4 rotational players who are not under contract for the Jets in 2013. The Jets currently have between $5.9M and $7.4M to fill all those holes. Obviously there will be other moves happening. Sione Pouha is probably going to get cut, that frees up another $3.833M. Antonio Cromartie almost has to get traded before the middle of March, that frees up another $8.25M. That's still not a lot of money on the cap to fill what will be 12 starters plus 5 rotational players plus an entire draft's worth of rookies. The Jets are going to be grinding up against the cap hard this year and in ways that the team has not seen before. We got out of the Parcells cap hell because all cap charges went with players picked in the expansion draft and we worked out a deal with the Texans to take both our starting CB's off our hands and with them a big chunk of the cap problems. It's too bad we don't have that option now.
You're right but I really wouldn't mind seeing most of those guys go. 2013 is going to be painful. I'd rather it be REALLY painful and get it over with. Who knows....they may hit it big in the draft to at least make us competitive. As of now we need 2-3 OL, 1-2 RBs, another WR. TE. QB of course. On defense we need 2-3 LBs and at least one safety. That's half the starting lineup. If they play their cards right they can be back in it in 2014
2013 is going to be painful no matter how we cut it.....it may be for the best. Look at the Colts. Alot of nice draft picks they were able to get out of it.....
We DO have a form of that option now. The biggest negative on this team, contract and performance, is Mark Sanchez. In my opinion, there is not a worse QB in the league and his ridiculous guaranteed contract precludes the jets from cutting him The best trade asset we have is Revis--We can't afford him anyway, so PACKAGE them in a trade. If someone wants Revis, make them take Sanchez and his contract too. A team like the Texans who pick late in the draft and are about a Revis player away from the next level might give us a high pick for Revis--I say go for it if and only if they take old butt fumble with it. To get the good (revis) they would have to take the bad (Sanchez). To get rid of the bad (Sanchez) in a trade, you have to throw in some good (Revis). Will it happen? Unlikely. But the jets have to move a lot of salary and 2013 will be a rebuilding year anyway so let's start rebuilding. There is NO one single move that could better improve this team AND this team's attitude more than jettisoning Sanchez.
Cutting Sanchez brings a $17,153,125 cap hit. Waiting until June 1. Cap hit for 2013 is $12,353,125. The remaining $4.8M counts towards 2014. If you trade Sanchez,$8.9M plus whatever salary the Jets assume of the $8.25M salary is the cap hit. Cut Sanchez after June 1.
Correct, because we have to... Doesn't mean we can put together a competitive team under the cap for next year (or, should I say, doesn't mean we'll be making player decisions for necessarily the right reasons given the severe restrictions).
Isn't it interesting that Bill Belicheat simply can't win the big one ever since he was forced to stop CHEATING??? "MR. Genious" becomes just a "good" coach when he doesn't give himself the advantage of cheating to win. Belicheat wins 3 Super Bowls in 4 years WHILE he cheated, and ZERO Super Bowls SINCE. I think an asterisk should go alongside all New England Super Bowl wins. Why should Belicheat and the Patriots KEEP those Super Bowl wins, while Lance Armstrong had to give back HIS championships???? Cheating is cheating.
This was such a great post Al that you needed to post it in more than one place none of which places it had anything to do with the thread topic????
I almost want to say eff it, do it before June 1st, deal with it in 2013 and get a clear slate next year.
I think the only way to do this is to either deal Cromartie or rework D'Brick again. Any other way of making the space is just going to replace Sanchez 2014 cap hit with somebody else's. Even with a Cromartie trade or a D'Brick rework the cap is so tight that taking an optional $4.3 million hit this year seems unlikely.
It's a no brain-er. Cut all the expensive dead wood. Trade down in the 1st and 2nd rounds to pick up 3-5 extra draft pic (10-12 total pics). Fill out the roster. Get your ring finger sized for some special bling. How hard could it be? edit: I forgot...trade Revis for Kapernick.
