That's a very short-sighted strategy. I don't believe our front office is that dumb. Throughout their reign of Terror, the pats have constantly re-invented themselves as a team. Stallworth is most likely gone next year. No guarantees on how long Moss will be there either. Vrabel's old. Bruschi's old. Who knows how long beli will be around? If the team signed samuel to fill out its defensive strategy with the players it needs...fine (although I'm against putting that much money into the secondary). But to lock up our finances for the next 5 years just to match up with our current division rival, when we don't even have a contender, is just ridiculous.
If true, then they need some people who can blitz. Their linebackers, with the surprising exception of Harris, cannot. Rhodes can blitz but corners do not free up safeties for blitzing. With safeties it is more a matter of surprising the offense.
If they are looking that hard at asante samuels maybe the FO thinks we have a shot at him if we bring in someone from NE for the DC job. I think that's what they had in mind all along. We will know in a week or so I guess.
yes this one of the needs we have to have, in having samuel and revis in the backfield, makes up about half a second to a second we can spare because of this tandem so we can rush or sack the QB. when having a pass rush the db's dont work so hard, versus not having one, now if you have a real good tandem in corners this helps bail out the pass rush a bit, now if you have both cover and passs rush would be very hard for any team to score, or go down the field. so yes we do need asante samuel.
I agree with this 100% also. I understand and agree with peoples argument that if you don't have a good defensive line, the cornerbacks are eventually gonna get burnt because they're in coverage too long. However, hopefully we can pick up a good D lineman in free agency or the draft. But if we don't, I think you're going to see alot more packages next year where Sione Pouha is at tackle and Robertson is on the end. Mangini seemed to be very high on Pouha at the end of the season, and was playing him alot. And I think Robertson will do well playing end in a 3-4. The other interesting player to me is David Bowens. When they started playing David Bowens in place of Bryan Thomas at the end of the season, he was definitely getting pressure on the quarterback, only problem is that big contract they gave to Thomas. My point being with the setup I just described, and Harris and Gholston blitzing, I think it could turn out to be a very formidable defense.
Anyone have any idea who could be a candidate for the defensive coordinator position that's currently on New England's staff?
All you have to do is look at the Broncos last year on this one to make a decision. They traded for Dre Bly so they would have Dre Bly, Champ Bailey, and John Lynch. Problem is they could not stop the run and could not get a pass rush. Champ Bailey had more balls completed on him this year than probably any year in his career. If the Jets do this, expect to see the defense on the field forever and the offense being very conservative trying to protect it.
We need Defensive line help more. If we can't get pressure on the Qb it makes no difference who is in the secondary. IT all starts at the line. Period.
Wow, that would be a great signing. We could all sit around next season and watch the 7 second plays where the Jets eventually collapsed because of no pass rush. We could watch the 7 minute drives against where the Jets couldn't stop the run for their lives. But we'd have two great corners. That works in Madden doesn't it?
1) With Harris & Revis having their rookie year behind them (& both playing from the start of the season) = the defense better. 2) With Samuel on our roster = the defense better. 3) Drafting Gholston = the defense better. 4) Pouha playing all season = the defense better. Look we all know that all teams have weaknesses. That being said I fear the run defence the most. Our lb crew, secondary, & even pass rush will b exceptable if not top 10. The problem is we cant have it all. Look @ it this way if there was a Vince Wilkford or Samuel availibe we would probably make a run for Wilkford. Finding a young stud NT to play the 34 is not the easist. So I believe that the FO is doing the next best thing by plaing downhill. Will it work out to b the best move... that will depend on Vilma & the possibility of drafting Gholston. My opinion on the defense.
Have we learned nothing from the Ty Law Rent-A-Whore signing? Asante Samuel is a terrific player, make no mistake. But don't expect that signing a terrific player like Samuel, who excels on a terrific team and who is surrounded by terrific talent, will come to our (fairly mediocre across the board) team and automatically make a huge difference. This, at what cost in dollars and Cap Space? It's going to come down to the dollars, plain and simple. If he can be acquired reasonably, that's one thing, but we all know this is going to command an unbelievable amount of money from somebody. We're a team (right now) that has so many needs across the board. What ever happened to recruiting our own future stars and/or cultivating what we have? This is the kind of rumor that got us into the Ty Law bidding war several years ago, and that worked out well, didn't it?
This has to be a smoke screen intended to drive up the price for Samuel to make sure he's not in NE next year. Either that or Mangini has lost his mind. cap buster.
I don't understand, everyone bitches that we need more talent. We are 28 million under the salary cap and when we may pursue a top tier free agent, you don't want to do it. So lets continue to sign second rate free agents like Kenyon Coleman, Matt Chatham, and Brad Kassell. Cause they have worked out fantastic. The time has come for us to sign some real talent, and I hope we ante up and get it done.
Samuel is a good corner and would definitely help the team but he's going to cost too much against the cap with all our needs. I'm in the camp that a big part of his success is due to the pressure the NE can bring. Bascially, I don't think he's as good as people make him out to be, but still good. I'd love to have him if it were the 80's and there was no cap. Last year the 49ers gave Clements, an eight-year, $80 million contract that including $22 million in guarantees. My guess is that Samuel will demand a similar contract. We need to sign at least one top tier FA OL, preferably 2. Like everyone else is saying, we need beef up front on the O and D lines. I guess my point is that if we're going to spend big money it should be in the trenches.
why does the biggest need have to be ddressed first. then the second biggest need second and so on....? just because the biggest need on the team is cb doesnt mean we cant sign a cb first.....it doesnt have to go in chronological order people
But we have enough cap room to sign Samuel, and sign a good left guard or a right tackle. And then no matter what, you always have to draft well. So hopefully we continue to draft well, and get the other offensive lineman in the draft amongst other needs like a Gholston and a big wide receiver etc.
